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Would you live in a housing estate made only for middle class people?

131 replies

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 21:25

/afforded only by those with professional salaries?

I’ve always lived in areas where poor and rich live cheek by jowl. But I’m considering move to a housing estate which is designed/afforded only by professional people. So the overall demographics are going to be very middle class because rents range from £2000-£5000

OP posts:
calligraphee · 11/04/2024 23:37

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 22:06

To live on the estate you have to apply and pass background checks - they only really let people in who are lawyers, dentists, professors, etc

They still might be twats though.

It sounds awful.

bluetopazlove · 11/04/2024 23:37

Don't believe everything you read on middle class people on here tell you .Their behaviour can still be bad . Lots of parties in gardens , drunk behaviour .Go out to leave their children have parties police turning up to shut them down .
Badly behaved animals . Kids home from schools , teens left to it while they are working all hours 🙄 .

RosesAndHellebores · 11/04/2024 23:47

Poundbury in Dorset springs to mind.

Our road is gated, our house is gated, as are the other houses in the road - there aren't many. Happily it's quite mixed. We have a gay couple, a couple of Muslim families, a couple of Hindu families, a couple of widows, etc. Everyone is lovely except one can go months without seeing anyone. One neighbour and I nod cheerily because we leave at the same time every day - we have never had a conversation. There is very little community. It is lonely.

Why can people afford to live here: drs, lawyers, accountants, etc.

Screamingabdabz · 11/04/2024 23:47

That’s about professional class rather than social class. Anyone who has been born with brains and ambition can get a good job. But to get a fabulous mix of community you need law abiding citizens, all with an eye on the common good but an appreciation of inclusion and difference.

My community is somewhere that in the face of it you would not want to live. Poverty, depravation and urban unattractive surroundings. But we have musicians, historians, allotment folks, beekeepers, plantsmen, dog breeders, bands, caring volunteers, experts of all sorts of niche things - caravanning, rare orchids, curry cooking, tai chi, buying homes in various parts of the world etc. One very ordinary person I bumped into the other day has spent her life building a women’s refuge in some remote part of a third world country I’d never even heard of.

My point is that these are all ordinary working class folks that give a little back, but would be excluded by that snooty gated community. Their loss.

ElloiseMcTavish · 11/04/2024 23:55

nothingisworking · 11/04/2024 23:16

Hopefully they do some kind of formal
test too - to make sure everyone is on the same page. Multiple choice answers and scored accordingly something like the following :

Q1 : Where should you get your online shopping from ?
A: Waitrose
B: M+S from Ocado
C: Abel and Cole

Q2 : Acceptable times for the above deliveries are ?
A: 6-7 am
B: 10-11 pm
C: 10-11 am

Q3 : What is most acceptable to hang outside your home ?
A: Your washing
B: A plastic topiary ball
C: A hand crafted hanging basket that you made step by step via video call with Alan titchmarsh

Etc etc

Q4 Do you intend to have hot tub?

Q5 Do you intend to have a fire pit?

Q6 Do you have children who make noise in summer?

MuggedByReality · 11/04/2024 23:55

I wouldn’t live on any sort of housing estate. I do, however, live in a village populated almost entirely by middle class professionals & middle class retired people. It’s not perfect, and competitive materialism is definitely an issue, but it’s still a very nice place to live.

StormyAprilSkies · 12/04/2024 00:16

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 22:06

To live on the estate you have to apply and pass background checks - they only really let people in who are lawyers, dentists, professors, etc

For rented homes. Can't these people afford to buy.

StormyAprilSkies · 12/04/2024 00:18

Lawyers and professors in a rented estate. Where might this 'estate' be?

Codlingmoths · 12/04/2024 00:21

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 22:06

To live on the estate you have to apply and pass background checks - they only really let people in who are lawyers, dentists, professors, etc

Wow, no. I live in a very middle class area, but that is ridiculous and I wouldn’t touch the place. If a friend moved in I’d ask if the rules say her kids have to move out at 21 if they haven’t qualified in a suitable profession ? That is just revolting snobbery and if you’d be comfortable there then you’d be a narrow minded bigot just like them.

slippedonabanana · 12/04/2024 00:33

I wouldn't particularly want to live in a housing estate, especially one where everyone was renting and there were no homeowners invested in the community. It sounds very odd.

Meadowfinch · 12/04/2024 00:49

I live in a small village, with 8 houses on our road, Jobs, as far as I can tell are:

Project Manager & Accountant
Private business owner x 2
Private business owner
Retired government librarian & her lodger
Retired doctor
One newly built house, not yet occupied (hoping for a sociable family)
One rented house,unknown occupants with a Volvo with Latvian number plates.

All friendly except the Latvians who are very mysterious. I'm a single mum with a medium job. If anyone looks down on me they have been far too polite to say, and seem happy enough to eat my mince pies and drink my fizz at Christmas.

When I bought the house I was too focused on getting ds onto a primary school list to worry whether my future neighbours were A,B,C1. 😁

penjil · 12/04/2024 01:19

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 21:28

I’m not sure I’ll feel comfortable knowing it’s exclusionary

Well, that's life.

It'll be a much better standard of living.

We'd all live that way if we could afford to.

NotCute · 12/04/2024 01:28

Screamingabdabz · 11/04/2024 23:47

That’s about professional class rather than social class. Anyone who has been born with brains and ambition can get a good job. But to get a fabulous mix of community you need law abiding citizens, all with an eye on the common good but an appreciation of inclusion and difference.

My community is somewhere that in the face of it you would not want to live. Poverty, depravation and urban unattractive surroundings. But we have musicians, historians, allotment folks, beekeepers, plantsmen, dog breeders, bands, caring volunteers, experts of all sorts of niche things - caravanning, rare orchids, curry cooking, tai chi, buying homes in various parts of the world etc. One very ordinary person I bumped into the other day has spent her life building a women’s refuge in some remote part of a third world country I’d never even heard of.

My point is that these are all ordinary working class folks that give a little back, but would be excluded by that snooty gated community. Their loss.

Merseyside?

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/04/2024 01:30

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 22:06

To live on the estate you have to apply and pass background checks - they only really let people in who are lawyers, dentists, professors, etc

I wonder what the racial make- up is...

Don't really wonder, I can guess. Hoops are always designed for other reasons than just the stated.

Hard no from me.

Hoplittlebunnyhophophopandstop · 12/04/2024 01:46

Most people working in trades ie working classes jobs earn more than people in traditional middle class jobs ie nursing, teaching, junior civil servant roles.

RogueFemale · 12/04/2024 01:53

Melvinaa · 11/04/2024 21:28

I’m not sure I’ll feel comfortable knowing it’s exclusionary

Then don't live there and find somewhere else. Bit of a non question.

Usernamen · 12/04/2024 02:38

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/04/2024 01:30

I wonder what the racial make- up is...

Don't really wonder, I can guess. Hoops are always designed for other reasons than just the stated.

Hard no from me.

Have you met many doctors and dentists in London? A substantial proportion are non-white. So that theory falls down straight away.

HeraSyndulla · 12/04/2024 02:43

No, wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/04/2024 03:46

Bless @Usernamen

The Point

Your Head

grinandslothit · 12/04/2024 04:37

So a type of income restricted housing but for high income people?

Doesn't this already happen by default by what rent prices are charged?

I have lived in exclusive wealthy areas before and actually liked it.

Usernamen · 12/04/2024 04:40

If one wanted to filter by race in London, one would not use profession. Certainly not the traditional professions.

Ponderingwindow · 12/04/2024 05:10

Plenty of areas are too expensive for most people to afford to live. Whether it happens by supply and demand or design, housing grouped by income is common.

hattie43 · 12/04/2024 05:17

For me it wouldn't matter about class or what money someone had it would be all about living with calm respectful neighbours with consideration for others . A collective pride in where we lived , no noise eg backfiring popping cars , etc

Twiglets1 · 12/04/2024 05:46

nothingisworking · 11/04/2024 23:16

Hopefully they do some kind of formal
test too - to make sure everyone is on the same page. Multiple choice answers and scored accordingly something like the following :

Q1 : Where should you get your online shopping from ?
A: Waitrose
B: M+S from Ocado
C: Abel and Cole

Q2 : Acceptable times for the above deliveries are ?
A: 6-7 am
B: 10-11 pm
C: 10-11 am

Q3 : What is most acceptable to hang outside your home ?
A: Your washing
B: A plastic topiary ball
C: A hand crafted hanging basket that you made step by step via video call with Alan titchmarsh

Etc etc

I like this. Some more suggestions for the questionnaire:

What paint do you intend to use throughout?
A Dulex
B Farrow & Ball
C Whatever’s cheapest

Where do you buy your furniture ?
A John Lewis
B Argos
C It’s mostly inherited

grumpypedestrian · 12/04/2024 05:59

Sounds awful, I hate housing estates anyway as they are awful for people who can’t drive as developers never consider transport for actual residents so they are very isolating.

When it says professionals only, is that for both adults if couples or families rent? I couldn’t live somewhere with such an elitist attitude.