Can you fit a family lounge/dining area/kitchen in to this space (plus a piano)

[KatyMac]

Basically 2 rooms connected by a 6 ft opening
Rm 1 currently lounge 17ft by 11ft
Rm 2 currently play room 14ft 10 by 10ft

I think we would be hard pressed but what do you think?

i dont do feet. can you tell me that in metres? sorry, cant visualise in imperial

Do you really need to keep the piano? How big is the family?

Sounds OK to me, just not sure where the piano would go. You'll have to do one of those scale model things with graph paper.

DH, DD, me & the cat
yes we have to keep the piano (it's ihereted - or it will be when Nana dies )
Rm 1 5m by 3.3m
Rm 2 4.45m by 3m

That is about the size of my living room and my DS's bedroom. It's okay but you need a table that goes small (mine has leaves either end but when they're 'in' is square and only seats four). How many people in your family is the question!

I presume you don't want the piano in the kitchen ...

yes you need someone to help though if you can't visualise it.that is where architects and designers are invaluable as they can 'see' certain layouts that others can't

If you have furniture already and Office on your computer, you can make a presentation where the page is the size of the room and then move shapes around to see how they fit. Obviously they will need to be scaled down

I am thinking of separating childminding completely from 'our' house - so that Dh & DD (& me occasionally) can have some private time

Really Spicemonster - I must have a look how?

yeah i reckon it can work. are you able to get space saving furniture or are you working with what youve got, and how small is it?

beware sofas that take up tons of room but most of the space is just arms and back, so not any more actual seating space than much more compact one.

No - I am working with what I have

The bigger room is the lounge & has a wood burner - so I think it will have to stay as a lounge

I guess that means the dining area is in the smaller room or that it is across the gap or in the corner in the lounge could look nice actually

yeah, play about with it. drives everyone nuts while you keep moving stuff around but is only way to know what works best imo

I will get a new kitchen - which could be good?

Do I have to tell building control if I convert my conservatory int a kitchen?

dunno, sorry. doubt it though

You will need to tell them if it is to be a kitchen

Will they say no?

Not if you meet certain criteria but you need to check what those are.is it already a kitchen or is it just an add on?

How high is the ceiling?

It's a playroom
Ceiling is 2.1m at it's lowest

I would be concerned about that. The things may/will fit in but it can look/feel very cramped.

How high is the rest of the ceiling?

Hmm not as good as I thought it's only 2.2 at the other end

I have fitted all the cupboards/sink/dishwasher/cooker down one side