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Moving to fort William

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Bellfit · 18/01/2024 13:24

We have the chance to move to fort William with DS 4 and DS 3. We would be moving from Southampton. Currently do love outdoor living in all weathers so not too concerned about the rain but does any one have help with what it is like to live up in fort William?

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museumum · 18/01/2024 19:02

Those saying it’s a dump are really just talking about the town centre itself. There are loads of lovely places around ft William you should look at for living. Just make sure you don’t need to commute through the town in summer!
im an east coaster so would fund the wet tough. And you will notice the difference in daylight hours in winter. But I don’t think it’s a bad place to live - I know people who live in the glen is and ballachuilish area and work in ft William.

Bellfit · 18/01/2024 19:27

Thank you!!

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ismu · 18/01/2024 19:42

The people who say it's 2.5 hours to Glasgow are having a laugh. Maybe it is at 4am in May IF the roads aren't shut all night for repairs etc. Maybe it is if you don't mind adding to the terrible fatality record on the A82 or the A9- you'll certainly get there quickly in the helicopter to hospital. As for a commute to Oban or Inverness, no one in their right mind would do this regularly, the roads are terrible, slow and the weather could make this a treacherous trip.
The Fort is well known as the absolute pits of the highlands and it's also extremely rough with most "naice " places in villages round about. Some communities nearby would also put the wicker man to shame and can be slightly "insular".
I agree with the people who suggested Perthshire.

nameXname · 18/01/2024 19:52

Highland Bookstore is indeed good but in summer you can't get into the Wildcat Cafe for tourists -and even then, as a very long-term vegetarian, I'm not that keen on their food or their coffee. But tastes vary; each to their own.

And a nice bookshop and a small vegan cafe do not necessarily equal a good place to live. It all depends on what you want, of course.

I like Ft William. Very much. I have known it for decades and what rather saddens me is how much it has changed. There used to be a small but good department store with an excellent delicatessan, and also a traditional and very helpful butcher. Both closed, along with several other nice/useful places, including some bank branches. There's now no town-centre greengrocer. Or delicatessan. Or ordinary clothes shop (men, women, children). Or shoe shop. Yes, there is a small traditional bakers (sugary cakes, sausage rolls and white flour - but with lovely friendly staff) and a very fancy, expensive, artisan bakery. There's a small Boots (with restricted opening hours) and an even smaller Lloyds Chemist. There's a very small hardware shop. There's a useful shop selling all sorts of bits and pieces - from clothes dye and a few cheap toys to bits of cookware and a small selection of paint. There are three small charity shops. There are a great many shops selling outdoor kit, from the really posh to the cheap and flimsy. The Post Office is a dark corner at the back of WH Smith.

There is a lovely small museum, run in part by volunteers. There is a small but very helpful Library, which houses a few groups such as toddlers' storytime and a knitting/craft circle. There are cafes and pubs and restaurants. Several of these, and also the souvenir /tourist tat shops, are closed in winter.

There's a swimming pool and an indoor leisure centre. and an outdoor Shinty field .There's a FE College and an outpost of the University of the Highlands and Islands. There are groups linked to local communities, local churches, local sports. NB all mountain etc sports require a car for acceess. There ARE buses/coaches out to the country, but they are very few and far between. There's a small cinema tickets.highlandcinema.co.uk/now-playing tickets.highlandcinema.co.uk/now-playing]]]] but no concert hall or theatre.

There are two supermarkets in the town centre (Morrisons and Lidl). Both do their best but they have limited space and are at the end of a very long delivery chain. Stock is limited and fresh fruit and veg sometimes seems rather tired and can be uncormfortably close to 'best before' dates. There's also a tiny Tesco metro and a Polish shop selling mostly pre-packed Polish supermarket goods. A car's drive away from the centre is Aldi and a M&S foodhall. There are also two or three industrial estates on the outskirts, with useful shops such as plumbers' merchants. One houses Lochaber Larder, which sells local meat etc. Some suburbs have their own little local shopping centres.

I can't speak about primary schools - there are some in the suburbs and a Roman Catholic one in the centre. Remember, the Scottish education system is different. There is one big secondary school, for all local teens, including those from surrounding villages. There's an extensive service of school buses - though they were (for example) all cancelled yesterday because of the bad weather. It rains a lot and is windy and it also gets snowy and icy at times. It is, after all, a waterside site in a deep valley to the north of and in the shadow of Britain's highest mountain. It does get very dark in winter.

It its more industrial than some people realise; it is a port, has an aluminium smelter and a big sawmill/timber processing plant. Also fish-processing plants (farmed salmon). Huge lorries laden with tree-trunks are a common sight on local roads. As are dripping lorries full of fish. The main A82 runs right through the town. The traffic through the centre can be very slow indeed in summer, because of gazillions of campervans and coaches. And there can be crowds of tourists in the streets. There are trains, but they get cancelled in bad weather (understandably so). There are coaches - heaving in summer - to Inverness, Glasgow, Oban. The main road to Inverness is also very busy in summer, and can be affected by snow and ice in winter. Trasnport generally can be an issue - there was an almighty fuss for most of 2023 when the Corran Ferry was out of action for about a year. Mobile phone and radio reception can be very variable. Braodband has improved over the years.

There is one health centre, on the outskirts, which houses (I think) all the local GP practices. There is a small hospital with an excellent A&E dept but most consultant appointments and many operations/treatments are in Inverness. This can mean either a very long drive there and back, or a night staying away,

The culture - well, I don't live there but I have always found local people kind and friendly. Sometimes reserved, but sometimes quite forthright. Go and stay there for several days, winter as well as summer; read the crucial local weekly newspaper "The Lochaber Times" online to get a feel of the place and look at BBC Highland news website. More useful info might be found in the webpages of the local Community Councils (= parish councils, but with influence) and in the local free magazine, Lochaber Life (also online). There are various Facebook sites, and also this: https://visitfortwilliam.co.uk/pages/general-information-about-life-in-fort-william-and-lochaber-a9c31f96 The right-hand sidebar - click 'show more' - has a list of various local community-based organisations.

Find out about life in Fort William and Lochaber

Lochaber Life - about people living in one of the most rural areas in the British Isles - Fort William demographics

https://visitfortwilliam.co.uk/pages/general-information-about-life-in-fort-william-and-lochaber-a9c31f96

nameXname · 18/01/2024 19:56

And yes, there are some rough streets. And a fair bit of social deprivation, too. But I don't think it's 'the pits'. Not compared with many many other places.

nameXname · 18/01/2024 20:47

I do, however, very much agree with @ismu about travel times. It is NOT quick or easy to get to Glasgow or Inverness or Oban, and the roads are crowded, narrow and dangerous. Some of them are closed in heavy snowfall; lorries get blown over in high winds. It took some friends of friends 10 hours to drive to the outskirts Glasgow and back to near Ft William the other day, and that was in relatively good weather, before the current ice and snow. In summer there are campervans and motorbikes driven by people unused to Highland conditions - sometimes far too fast, sometimes far too slow. And cars driven by foreign tourists, unused to keeping to the left hand side of the road and/or (understandably) wanting to stop and admire the beautiful scenery (it's what they've come for, after all). The heavy double lorries (ie with attached trailers) and big tourist coaches have to slow to walking ppace to squeeze past each other in many places. There are deer and sheep that cause accidents. Etc etc etc.

ismu · 18/01/2024 20:51

Well to be fair @nameXname there are worse places! If you grew up in the Fort you'd probably love it. And it has a MacDonalds.
It's among the very last place I'd ever consider moving to as an incomer though.

MrsMoastyToasty · 18/01/2024 21:06

The A82 (the A road down to Loch Lomond and Glasgow) often closes due to heavy snow. We have literally been the last people to drive out at Crianlarich before the police closed the snow gates.
We live near Bristol but use either Fort William or Oban as a stop off for fuel before catching the ferry to Mull.

CrashyTime · 18/01/2024 22:27

dorry678 · 18/01/2024 17:55

I have been twice, as a tourist and the shopping centre is a bit odd IMHO, it wasn't built to be beautiful, it's mostly tourist shops and is heaving with tourists in the summer. The roads were also busy and the supermarkets crammed. I should imagine it's bleak in winter.
We had a great time but I'm not sure it would be so great in the depths of winter. The last time we visited it was during a stupid heatwave and even then I could only see the downsides. It all just felt a little grey.

Last time I was there, and this is many smaller places all over the UK now, it was just a total rat run of traffic all day long with very stressed people at the wheel. and then tumbleweed at night, this was out of season though and you are there for the hills and the walking if visiting for only a couple of days usually so for me anyway I don`t need a live band in every pub or whatever, and they were just coming out of the lockdowns which might explain the stress due to lost tourist income? The stressed drivers like you would see in a city did seem a bit absurd considering the scenic backdrop, but I suppose if you live there it just gets tuned out as you rush to Asda to load up the car or worry about those cancelled bookings at your BnB/AirBnB or whatever.

theduchessofspork · 18/01/2024 22:32

Go and spend some time there in winter - it’s v v different to where you are.

Bloody freezing in winter, with biblical rain and wind. Generous dollops of snow. Town quite desolate. Countryside too brutal to spend time in.

Packed with tourists in summer.

If you like outdoor life, then the summer half of the year is brilliant, with amazing countryside access, extra light hours, lots to do.

But the winter really is something to handle. It’s not for everyone

Riverlee · 18/01/2024 22:40

We were on holiday in Fort William a couple of
years back, in the summer. What we remember about the weather is that you can gave all four seasons in one day, the weather turns that quickly.

Scotland
has shorter winter daylight hours, but longer summer days.

Beautiful area though.

CrashyTime · 18/01/2024 22:48

ismu · 18/01/2024 19:42

The people who say it's 2.5 hours to Glasgow are having a laugh. Maybe it is at 4am in May IF the roads aren't shut all night for repairs etc. Maybe it is if you don't mind adding to the terrible fatality record on the A82 or the A9- you'll certainly get there quickly in the helicopter to hospital. As for a commute to Oban or Inverness, no one in their right mind would do this regularly, the roads are terrible, slow and the weather could make this a treacherous trip.
The Fort is well known as the absolute pits of the highlands and it's also extremely rough with most "naice " places in villages round about. Some communities nearby would also put the wicker man to shame and can be slightly "insular".
I agree with the people who suggested Perthshire.

Extremely rough? They are from Southampton, it is not going to appear rough to them, more likely very boring after a short while (no offence to anyone who lives there, it is just the culture shock thing that is going to catch people out moving from one of the most populated areas of the country to one of the least populated) you need to spend a lot of time there in all parts of the year before moving up there IMO. The train journey up from Glasgow is absolutely stunning though, everyone should do that at least once.

Calmdown14 · 18/01/2024 22:56

What is the nature of the job? If it came to an end could he get another one without a major move?

I love the west coast but don't think I could live there. We are north east and still remote but the roads are better.

Things to consider:
How often will you need to visit family? It's not an easy journey and requires extra time. Flights from Inverness can be expensive.

You commit much earlier in the house buying process in Scotland you you'll need to sell and then buy and will need two different solicitors.

If you buy up here, will you ever be able to move back? I know Oban house prices were crazy last year, not sure about Fort William but on the whole rural areas have not seen the kind of uplifts of English cities in recent years. When I first moved it was roughly comparable with the part of northern England I moved from. Now my house is worth half the equivalent there.

It doesn't bother me as I'll never move back but still needs to be considered.

You also can't underestimate how far you are from other places. When you are used to being able to visit other towns its quite a shock to find there really is no where else of any size.

Amazon prime is worth it's weight in gold when you need silicone sealant or a bit for the shower and don't want to do a 100 mile round trip for it.

If none of that bothers you and you are the kind of people happy to get stuck in, dig the car out of snow, chop your wood etc it's fine.

I love preparing for winter. The snow in last few days is beautiful. Trying to get anywhere less so!

FloraMacDonaldsFancy · 18/01/2024 22:57

I know people who live in the glen is and ballachuilish area and work in ft William Living in the Glencoe and Ballachulish areas is completely different to living in Fort William. I’ve lived in one of these places all my life and no way would we move to Fort William.

FloraMacDonaldsFancy · 18/01/2024 23:09

ismu · 18/01/2024 19:42

The people who say it's 2.5 hours to Glasgow are having a laugh. Maybe it is at 4am in May IF the roads aren't shut all night for repairs etc. Maybe it is if you don't mind adding to the terrible fatality record on the A82 or the A9- you'll certainly get there quickly in the helicopter to hospital. As for a commute to Oban or Inverness, no one in their right mind would do this regularly, the roads are terrible, slow and the weather could make this a treacherous trip.
The Fort is well known as the absolute pits of the highlands and it's also extremely rough with most "naice " places in villages round about. Some communities nearby would also put the wicker man to shame and can be slightly "insular".
I agree with the people who suggested Perthshire.

We can travel to Glasgow avoiding the A82 by going the A84 and easily it do it in 2 1/2 hours leaving the house at various times. We also regularly travel to Oban and Inverness. Oban takes us 45 min tops and Inverness 2 hours. I disagree on these points. I do agree that some little communities can be a bit insular but they don’t actually burn people 😂. Locals are sick of people buying properties at well over their value and pricing locals out of the housing market buying holiday homes. They’re also sick of the caper vans wild camping and pouring shit into Loch Leven as well as other lochs washing their toilets out while doing the NC500!

ExtremelyJoyous · 18/01/2024 23:10

Fort William is an odd place. There are much nicer places in the highlands to live in.

You really need to visit it though, multiple times before you make a decision.

Take into consideration that you can’t fly to Southampton from Inverness, so if you want to visit you would need to drive the 2.5 hours to Glasgow to fly or drive 12+ hours.

There’s a small hospital in Fort William but you’d need to go to Inverness or Glasgow for most things.

Campervans and tourists take over the roads from Easter - October.

Also the roads can be shut very easily, either from bad weather or accidents.

You should only put your children in Gaelic medium if you are also willing to learn Gaelic and speak it at home. Also Inverness has a population of about 80k now.

Bellfit · 20/01/2024 09:13

We would be very lucky in case we would have a accommodation provided and therefore we can just rent our property out down here in terms of buying and selling a property that wouldn’t be too much of an issue.

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CrashyTime · 20/01/2024 10:42

Apart from the legal obligations of being a landlord and the possibility that the tenant doesnt pay or wont move out when you want the property back?

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