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Painter used wrong paint update - need help!

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SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 13:29

Hello. I posted about the painted using wrong paint in my living room and halls previously. I kept questioning him and he insisted it was the wood ash 229. So I ordered a pot sample and the 229 sample I got is slightly more white...so I thought hmm let me investigate further. So I asked for the paint he used in living room. He told me where it was left when I checked there were only two tubs of 106 (the colours used in the bedrooms, which should only be used in bedrooms!!!). Basically, no 229 so I asked and he said its the one with the fuller tub...so I took it and painted a small section in living room and yup, its the same colour he used in living room exactly....the 229 that is the colour its supposed to be is clearly more white....but the thing is when its such a small section it does not stand out so much, but I think will be a lot more obvious when painting entire living room. As previously my living room never looked so blue. I kept saying it looked like the bedrooms.

Anyway, so I took the same paint he used in living room and painted on the wall in bedroom, once it dried it matches EXACTLY.....so now I know 100% he used the same paint in the bedroom and the living room. I am not sure why he kept insisting the colour he was paiting in the hall and living room was what I asked for (the 229) when the tub clearly says 106 and paint test confirms both colours are the same in bedroom and living room.....

So now my question is....he should pay for the correct paint right? At first I thought I might pay for the paint as I should have spoken up earlier that I thought the paint looked too blue. But he insisted it was the wood ash 229 colour I told him. But now, I 100% confirm no its not the 229 wood ash colour I told him and my suspicions were actually right and its the same exact colours used in the bedroom (gauze 106). At first I thought perhaps the colour match he insisted on got it wrong, but clearly he is in the wrong when the colour match paint he got does not even say the correct colour on the tin and the paint matches exactly the ones in the bedroom.

Sorry for my rambling and repitition....but this has seriously been driving me nuts and has been on my mind.

Also, my other dilemma he replaced a section and repointed some of the front wall bricks outside and now they are all turning an ugly green colour. All the old bricks have remained their normal colour....in 7 years we lived in the house they were never this ugly green colour. He claims this is normal that the bricks turn green. I don't think this is normal and something needs to be sorted out. Why only the new bricks he put down changing to this ugly green colour. I assume its moss or algae? Thoughts?

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MugsAplentyForMe · 18/12/2023 14:59

I told him and my suspicions were actually right and its the same exact colours used in the bedroom

what was his response to this?
Yes, you are correct that shouldn’t have to pay for replacement paint if you’ve already paid for the first lot that he’s clocked up.
No clue about the bricks though. I presume you’ve pointed out that the other, older, bricks haven’t gone green?

SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 18:28

MugsAplentyForMe · 18/12/2023 14:59

I told him and my suspicions were actually right and its the same exact colours used in the bedroom

what was his response to this?
Yes, you are correct that shouldn’t have to pay for replacement paint if you’ve already paid for the first lot that he’s clocked up.
No clue about the bricks though. I presume you’ve pointed out that the other, older, bricks haven’t gone green?

Apologies, I meant that I told him when he painted just part of the hallway that the paint looks too blue and it does not look like the right colour. He insisted it was the colour I told him and even said, wood ash. So he kept saying that it was the wood ash colour I sent him (when in reality confirmed today, that no it was in fact the same colour used in bedroom, which is Gauze 106). Even the container he used states on the seal colour 106!!! Woodash is supposed to be colour 229, so he is def in the wrong. When he initially told me he used the colour I requested I naively believed him and did not do further investigations. I did question him a few times and he insisted that the paint fades over time and that is why it looks different and that walls were dirty. The paint is just fresh etc. But after a few days I just kept getting this nagging feeling and decided to investigate....first by buying the correct paint myself, which is wood ash 229. Then I saw that it was clearly a different colour then what he painted. So I asked for the paint he used and was surpised when I saw the number 106 written on the can, as that is the same number for bedrooms, which I then painted on living room wall and bedroom (matches 100% on both). But the correct colour I wanted is slightly more white....so I now know he was wrong and I was correct when questioning him why my walls were suddenly blue like the bedrooms when they were not previously.

So tomorrow, I am going to show him all the proof of his mistake, as I feel much better to do in person so he can see it. There is absolutely no denying it. Although, he might try to make excuses....but at end of the day, I have the evidence and it is very clear.

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SaladSeeker · 18/12/2023 18:32

I think the chances of you getting him to come back and correct it are slim to none tbh

Headshoulderscheeseontoast · 18/12/2023 18:39

Have you paid him yet?

SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 18:55

SaladSeeker · 18/12/2023 18:32

I think the chances of you getting him to come back and correct it are slim to none tbh

That is what I am worried about...except there are still works to be done and money to be made....so if he walks away he will lose out on 4-6k of work......instead of just losing out on 2 days of work and a few hundred pounds to correct his mistake. If it were me, I would just correct the mistake firstly, as an honest person, as clearly its wrong. And also in order to make the addition few thousand pounds....but who knows what he will do.

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ectoone · 18/12/2023 18:57

There is no way I would let him do more work in my house. Not a chance.

SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 18:58

Headshoulderscheeseontoast · 18/12/2023 18:39

Have you paid him yet?

We had to put down a percentage up front and the rest is paid in instalments, the last 30% is do once works are completed. Works are not completed so he could walk way....but then he would lose out on 4-6k of earnings....as there was additional work discussed that we are planning on doing and also work he is already contracted to do. So it could go either way....no brainer would be to fix what was done wrong, bc at the end he would still make a few thousand from it...

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SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 19:00

ectoone · 18/12/2023 18:57

There is no way I would let him do more work in my house. Not a chance.

So, what would you do? Hire someone else to do the works? It is so frustrating, as I feel its impossible to find someone to do things correctly.

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ectoone · 18/12/2023 19:02

So, what would you do? Hire someone else to do the works?

That's exactly what I would do. I recently went through 3 builders for similar reasons. Things I picked up and they lied about, then I needed them to correct. If they can't do the job properly first time slot admit a mistake and fix it I wouldn't want them back

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 18/12/2023 19:13

There is no way you will get him to stump up for the paint. You are going to have to chalk this up to experience.

UpUpUpU · 18/12/2023 19:23

OP, do you use that many words in real life? He possibly switched off and stopped listening 😂

I think I’d buy my own paint and get another person in to do the rest of the house and repaint what is wrong.

No idea on the bricks though!

StoorieHoose · 18/12/2023 19:23

What other work are you getting done by a painter that he still has 6k worth of work to do???

StoorieHoose · 18/12/2023 19:25

Just read that you got a painter to replace some bricks??? So he's a handy man rather than an actual tradesman?

TheCountIsPale · 18/12/2023 19:37

Painting is easy enough just do it yourself and save yourself the heartache. He sounds like an absolute cowboy.

SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 19:43

ectoone · 18/12/2023 19:02

So, what would you do? Hire someone else to do the works?

That's exactly what I would do. I recently went through 3 builders for similar reasons. Things I picked up and they lied about, then I needed them to correct. If they can't do the job properly first time slot admit a mistake and fix it I wouldn't want them back

Argh. Why does it have to be like this? I just do not understand, if it is their profession, why can't they just do their job right???

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SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 19:44

UpUpUpU · 18/12/2023 19:23

OP, do you use that many words in real life? He possibly switched off and stopped listening 😂

I think I’d buy my own paint and get another person in to do the rest of the house and repaint what is wrong.

No idea on the bricks though!

Edited

Haha....no. I probably should have to make it CLEAR to him.

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SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 19:48

StoorieHoose · 18/12/2023 19:23

What other work are you getting done by a painter that he still has 6k worth of work to do???

He still needs to paint two bathrooms and the outside of the house (front and back), which is 4k worth of work (considering the quotes I have gotten from 3 different painters). The additional 2k I am just guessing as I never got a quote for staining the kitchen floors (the previous owners did this and they need to be redone as after 7 years have faded) and considering to repaint kitchen cabinets.... However, probably would not use him after his fiasco unless he rectifies his mistakes and I am 100% happy.

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SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 19:50

StoorieHoose · 18/12/2023 19:25

Just read that you got a painter to replace some bricks??? So he's a handy man rather than an actual tradesman?

Sorry, yes he is a handy man, so does works around the house and has painted when done previous works. He has done some works throughout the years, which has required him to paint walls or small sections so I assumed he knew how to paint a house! As for the bricks, he hired two other men to come and do it....I did not know you needed someone special to do it. I have clearly learned my lesson!

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SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 19:51

TheCountIsPale · 18/12/2023 19:37

Painting is easy enough just do it yourself and save yourself the heartache. He sounds like an absolute cowboy.

100% I have decided I will repaint myself if needed in the future....at least the areas I can....some ceilings are too high though so would be very tricky....

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ectoone · 18/12/2023 19:52

I think your problem is this guy is a jack of all trades and master of none. Get rid of him, definitely don't give him thousands of pounds worth of work

SamPoodle123 · 18/12/2023 20:04

ectoone · 18/12/2023 19:52

I think your problem is this guy is a jack of all trades and master of none. Get rid of him, definitely don't give him thousands of pounds worth of work

But how do you find someone who actually knows how to do the work??

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BlueMongoose · 19/12/2023 20:31

How fast did the bricks change colour?

MyLadyTheKingsMother · 19/12/2023 20:53

#firstworldproblems

My walls are too blue! 🙄

LaChatte · 19/12/2023 21:34

MyLadyTheKingsMother · 19/12/2023 20:53

#firstworldproblems

My walls are too blue! 🙄

TBF in the original thread she did say it was a first world problem.

EdgarAllenRaven · 19/12/2023 21:49

OP he is dishonest. He is a liar. He clearly has realised that he’s painted it wrong yet continues to try and trick you.
Sure, point it out but I doubt he will re-paint it… and definitely do not give him more work, even if he does correct it! He is untrustworthy and unreliable.
God knows what he’s done to your bricks. Don’t believe his bullshit and don’t trust him with him replacing them either , pay somebody who comes recommended. Ask neighbours.