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Thinking of leaving London. Does this place exist? Where is it?

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Speaknowfearlessreputation · 20/11/2023 20:05

London has gotten so expensive and I am finding that the community I once loved is disappearing too.

If this is on our wish list, where would suit us?

-strong community: friendly, easy to integrate, lots to do
-liberal minded people
-creative people around (I work in a creative industry)
-access to London (doesn’t have to be commutable as I work from home, but DH and I do need to get back once every fortnight or so)
-a charming high street full of independent shops
-not too polluted
-good schools, preferably progressive schools
-great place to be a kid

Where would this place be?

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Newsenmum · 09/05/2024 10:50

Speaknowfearlessreputation · 20/11/2023 20:05

London has gotten so expensive and I am finding that the community I once loved is disappearing too.

If this is on our wish list, where would suit us?

-strong community: friendly, easy to integrate, lots to do
-liberal minded people
-creative people around (I work in a creative industry)
-access to London (doesn’t have to be commutable as I work from home, but DH and I do need to get back once every fortnight or so)
-a charming high street full of independent shops
-not too polluted
-good schools, preferably progressive schools
-great place to be a kid

Where would this place be?

Folkestone!!

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 09/05/2024 11:16

I'm in Lewes, looking to move to Hackney Grin

It's very green here with beautiful views. The high street does indeed have independent shops. We have a lot of pubs and cafes. A good art scene, lots of classes, clubs, talks, studio space and open house Rt trails. We have a lot of cobbled streets, and there is a lot of tudor houses hiding behind georgian frontages. We have a choice of three supermarkets but also small independent food shops.

However, it's liberal to the point of lunacy. It's middle aged on its underbelly, and the local people dislike change. DFLs are always Dfls irrespective of how long they've lived here. We burn effigies and set light to stuff, wear costumes and march with burning torches....which is fab, but not for everyone. The 'liberals' have sought to stop bonfire.

We have a council that are loons who do little to maintain the fabric of the built environment, or invest in maintaining beautiful old lewes and its history. Instead they have created a new wet land for a horny snail, tarmacced the river Bank and let the weeds take over the paths, cobbles and bricks. Its scruffy.

The shops are useless unless you want knitted vegetables or yak hair brushes and organic turn-ups.

Lewes is also very cliquey, "which bonfire society are you joining" and there are two classes here, the middle class social worker who actually works in media in a "big job" eating the dwarf battle bread outside flint owl, or the rest of us who they give pittying looks too who wear weird clothing, actually do 'art' and do march about with burning torches. The former group think we are neanderthal idiots who don't know our own minds.

But, it is pretty and schools are quite good.

Crikeyalmighty · 09/05/2024 11:34

@MikeRafone I love Bradford- when we downscale, it's likely we will go to Bradford on Avon. It's not big- more big village /small town size, and it lacks practical shops somewhat - however it's only 15 minutes on train into Bath or 15 to 20 minutes drive and even less into Trowbridge by car or train - which has all these. It does have a big Sainsbury's too - a great mix of housing too from cottages to modern detached to Manor Houses and it has a great swimming pool and lots of community stuff- it is also not scruffy- some very liberal places are- as the poster has just mentioned about Lewes- I would say the same about Stroud and Frome- I enjoy an afternoon out in both , but I do think both have a scruffy vibe.

Turmerictolly · 09/05/2024 16:39

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 09/05/2024 11:16

I'm in Lewes, looking to move to Hackney Grin

It's very green here with beautiful views. The high street does indeed have independent shops. We have a lot of pubs and cafes. A good art scene, lots of classes, clubs, talks, studio space and open house Rt trails. We have a lot of cobbled streets, and there is a lot of tudor houses hiding behind georgian frontages. We have a choice of three supermarkets but also small independent food shops.

However, it's liberal to the point of lunacy. It's middle aged on its underbelly, and the local people dislike change. DFLs are always Dfls irrespective of how long they've lived here. We burn effigies and set light to stuff, wear costumes and march with burning torches....which is fab, but not for everyone. The 'liberals' have sought to stop bonfire.

We have a council that are loons who do little to maintain the fabric of the built environment, or invest in maintaining beautiful old lewes and its history. Instead they have created a new wet land for a horny snail, tarmacced the river Bank and let the weeds take over the paths, cobbles and bricks. Its scruffy.

The shops are useless unless you want knitted vegetables or yak hair brushes and organic turn-ups.

Lewes is also very cliquey, "which bonfire society are you joining" and there are two classes here, the middle class social worker who actually works in media in a "big job" eating the dwarf battle bread outside flint owl, or the rest of us who they give pittying looks too who wear weird clothing, actually do 'art' and do march about with burning torches. The former group think we are neanderthal idiots who don't know our own minds.

But, it is pretty and schools are quite good.

Ha, ha this is spot on re; Lewes!

Alicewinn · 09/05/2024 19:16

I moved from hackney to Southsea. I’m happier because I joined a sea swim group & I’m self employed and there more people here who want to hang out on weekdays !! I think it’s always the people who make a place. Hackney started to feel more and more intense to me, so dense despite all green space

mewkins · 09/05/2024 19:44

Zoomie1 · 20/11/2023 22:16

St Alban's is hardly creative. It's expensive middle-class smugness. Last time I ventured (from 't'north) all the fellas had pastel-coloured sweaters draped around their shoulders. The pavements looked like they had been ironed, everything all neat and prim. Artisan bread was the most creative thing I witnessed.

Grin I've lived in St Albans (20 years or so ago). It was smug then. Now it's unbearable and everyone is obsessed with house prices and school catchment areas. It does now at least have a lib dem MP back after many years of being Tory. It's so expensive though that I don't think it will have the diverse community you're after. All creatives are priced out.

AnonyLonnymouse · 09/05/2024 19:46

Love your descriptions @LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster!😂

Do a lot of Lewes dwellers work at the big place of learning slightly to the west of you?

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 09/05/2024 20:35

York

Puppylucky · 09/05/2024 20:41

Ooh I lived in BOA a few years ago and it's not all peaches and cream! It's actually very badly connected to Bath as the trains and buses are (were?) very infrequent. There is also a huge divide between locals and DFL's - we didn't make a single friend. Pretty though

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 09/05/2024 21:01

AnonyLonnymouse · 09/05/2024 19:46

Love your descriptions @LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster!😂

Do a lot of Lewes dwellers work at the big place of learning slightly to the west of you?

Yes they do. We've always had quite a few. From Brighton and Sussex. I think lewes has always been popular with academics from both universities. Its liberal and arty here but its more grown up than Brighton. One such academic has abandoned politics to argue that animals should have equal rights to humans. Lewes has a history of political radicalism. Perhaps dogs are more politically astute than turkeys? who knows! I assume too that if you want time away from the kids it's best to avoid living in Brighton where most students are living and working.

Crikeyalmighty · 09/05/2024 21:38

@Puppylucky train is every 25 mins , but to be fair it's only 6 miles away so not exactly that far if you drive- we pop over there fairly often- I think the friend thing is a bit pot luck- we had same situation in Bristol and Oxford- but I've made good friends in Bath

Papricat · 09/05/2024 23:33

Hull is on trend and has plenty of affordable Eastern European eateries.

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 09/05/2024 23:40

And York is full.

WitchyWay · 09/05/2024 23:46

Hove ticks all those boxes, although it sounds like you love where you live, why change?

Crikeyalmighty · 10/05/2024 10:34

@WitchyWay it does but it's not significantly cheaper , same here in Bath, Winchester, Oxford etc - I think the OP can get this but it comes at a cost- even places like this 'up north' like York aren't cheap - if cost is the real biggie of course rather than lifestyle

Quiestvous · 10/05/2024 10:43

EveryOtherNameTaken · 20/11/2023 20:56

Guildford
Woking

Not Woking, was happy there, but it doesn't fit the criteria. Plus council is in bankruptcy so cutting services.

YouHaveAnArse · 10/05/2024 10:50

thecatfromjapan · 21/11/2023 01:22

Walthamstow or Crystal Palace.

I don't really think St Alban's has the Hackney vibe.

Crystal Palace definitely falls under the "expensive" category. Not sure if OP is moving to rent, moving to buy a first home, or looking for somewhere bigger, but both rents and house prices have rocketed in the past few years. It's lovely, but it's not going to save you money.

I know a few people who were priced out of Walthamstow and moved to Sheffield so they could buy a home and start a family.

jacksonlamb · 10/05/2024 11:55

Cookham or the Abbotsbrook area of Bourne End

ScaredToGetItWrong · 24/06/2024 20:11

Where did you settle on? Your original post is my life right now!

Copernicus321 · 25/06/2024 13:49

Norwich is nice because being out to the right hand side of England most people never get there as it's not on the way to anywhere and they've forgotten it exists. It's a city of 150,000 but it feels smaller. It has cathedrals, hundreds of medieval churches, beauty, lots of culture, independent shops, parks, rivers, country, nice ordinary people, connects to London.

ElleDeeCB · 25/06/2024 17:03

Copernicus321 · 25/06/2024 13:49

Norwich is nice because being out to the right hand side of England most people never get there as it's not on the way to anywhere and they've forgotten it exists. It's a city of 150,000 but it feels smaller. It has cathedrals, hundreds of medieval churches, beauty, lots of culture, independent shops, parks, rivers, country, nice ordinary people, connects to London.

You forgot the pubs @Copernicus321 !

Speaknowfearlessreputation · 25/06/2024 17:47

ScaredToGetItWrong · 24/06/2024 20:11

Where did you settle on? Your original post is my life right now!

Not the answer you want…. But we decided to stay in London! Moved to a slightly different part. It’s not perfect, but nowhere felt quite right. I decided the community was the most important thing to me in the end. I still have pangs of “is this right?”, but we’re ok for now.

Good luck!

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ODFOx · 05/07/2024 23:10

Go to East Northants (Oundle, Thrapston and lots of villages) . The price is significantly lower than the other side of the A1 and they are beautiful small towns with all that you need locally plus larger towns/cities within a short drive. Several rail systems within minutes (East midland or main line for north/south plus plenty of cross-country through Peterborough or Northampton.).

Gamergirl86 · 06/07/2024 09:14

Definitely agree with PP who mentioned Stroud.
Also Salisbury, Bath, Cheltenham, Chichester.
On the smaller side, Malborough, Shrewsbury, Tunbridge Wells.

Bristol is always going to give that 'we voted green' vibe but like anywhere you need to choose your area very carefully.

Small vote fpr Malvern in Worcestershire. Great schools, welcoming and walkable but maybe too far from London?

rainraingoaw · 06/07/2024 19:19

Copernicus321 · 25/06/2024 13:49

Norwich is nice because being out to the right hand side of England most people never get there as it's not on the way to anywhere and they've forgotten it exists. It's a city of 150,000 but it feels smaller. It has cathedrals, hundreds of medieval churches, beauty, lots of culture, independent shops, parks, rivers, country, nice ordinary people, connects to London.

Agree, fab place to live.We are also very lucky to have the lanes

norwichlanes.co.uk/

What sort of property are you looking for, budgeting for Op?
And yes fab pubs and indie restaurants

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