Where would you put an ensuite in this layout?

[EMcCLess]

I'm looking for some advice/ recommendations where would be the most practical place to add a small bathroom on to the plan below. This is the 2nd floor of my house. Anything I need to be aware of? It's not that directly connected to the current bathroom and no water supply up there bar the radiators.

Thanks in advance
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What's the downstairs floorplan?

I think your only option is triangle shaped one in the corner. Do a sliding door.

Impossible to say, can you attach the floor plan of downstairs to see where the waste pipe is. Also which direction do the floor joists run.

Hi OP, we have a 1920s semi which only had an upstairs loo until we extended and added one downstairs.

We used a RICS chartered surveyor to draw up our plans and he had to find the sewer line and the waste pipe which would connect the loo. (AFAIK showers/ sinks are not as problematic but loos really need to line up with the existing waste pipes!)

We ended up shifting the whole layout around to fit the loo directly underneath the existing one on the floor above. He also advised that if we ever do the loft conversion then we'll need to line that one up directly above as well!

So it makes no difference what you think creatively, it just matters where the waste will go - can you get a plumber/builder mate around to advise?

Best of luck!

Thanks for the quick responses... The joists run front to back I believe but no direct connection to waste which is in the outrigger on 1st floor.

TBH I need a loo on both ground and 2nd but not sure where to start so all advice welcomed!

This!

Put it between the 2 bedrooms.
Although it all depends on where the soil pipe currently is in your house.
if the right side of the picture is an outside wall you could put a new soil pipe there on the outside wall and add a new connection under your front garden to the current soil waste pipe/drainage. Would involve digging up your garden though.

@EMcCLess unless I am being spectacularly dopey, I don't seea bathroom on that floorplan at all!

Another option might be to bring the door for bedroom 4 down the landing a bit and put a bathroom where the current door leads, cutting off before you get to the window. Not an ensuite as it's not accessed directly from bedroom but

The position of the soil stack or nearest drain access with be the deciding factor on where it can feasibly go.

If the soil pipe runs down the back of the house then the only place you can have a bathroom is towards that side of the house. Unless you want a macerator toilet and then are absolutely awful and break all the time.

You will need to get a soil pipe run down the outside of the building past the dining room window and then dig up the ground outside the kitchen breakfast room to connect the pipe up to the existing sewerage pipes.

The only thing you can do is section off part of bedroom 4 but I think you will end up with a box room to get enough space.

It's a shame the stairs don't go the other way as you might have been able to fit one in at the end of the stairs if there was head room.

I would do something like this.

move the door to the larger bedroom. Then use the space to make a small shower room. If the door accesses in the middle of the room you can have a shower on the right as you enter, a toilet on your left and a small sink opposite the door. The door would be best as a slider.

the larger bedroom would have a bit taken out for the shower, you could square this off with built on wardrobes?
the door can go either way into the room either as I’ve put it, or end of the corridor.

the main problem is water and sewage. Hopefully you would be able to get some waste pipes in the stair cavity (45degree angle under the treads? ) but it’ll be expensive whatever

That's exactly what I was thinking - and remove chimney breast from bedroom 4. That way you don't lose space from your main bedroom.

Can you extend the second floor over the outrigger? Might be more sensible to consider than carving up the existing bedrooms, which are nowhere near the soil pipe.