Re: Need a new gas oven - but without a hob

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Does anyone know where I can buy a new, good quality, freestanding gas oven - without a hob on top - from somewhere where the installers will fit this for me? They'd also need to be able to replace twisted gas pipes that supply the oven - and then take away an old oven?

Following a gas leak from a faulty, old, fitted, gas oven, we're now without an oven at all. The old broken one is currently disconnected, taken down from the centre of a kitchen unit and plonked in the middle of the kitchen floor...not sure who would be able to collect this but anyway...

I need a new gas oven and the person who disconnected the leaking old one, says it'd be best to get a freestanding one as it'll be easier to maintain and fit. The gas pipes still obscured behind the kitchen cabinetry, are twisted and need replacing so the cabinetry has to be removed, probably by me if I can figure out how to do this.

I can't find where to buy a new, freestanding, gas oven without a hob on top. They all seem to include hobs. I'm pretty sure you can't, for safety reasons, site a hob where there's no extractor fan. Our kitchen extractor fan is on the other side of the kitchen above our old and still functioning gas hob, so the site of the old oven has no fan above it.

I'm not sure where to begin to know what to buy and from where. So much of the 40+ yr old kitchen is faulty now (dripping sink tap, ancient gas hob, dismantled gas oven), that, if I could afford it, I'd get a new kitchen but my budget is tiny. Any advice?

Don;t really know about budget optimisation.

But I replaced all my appliances with AO pretty much all at once. You can subscribe to their premium service for a year, and then get everything. I think that makes the delivery free. They install pretty cheaply as well and carried all my stuff up the stairs.

I rate them.

Sounds like he's talking about a built under oven.

However, with the expenses involved, if money's tight, an airfryer will cover you almost indefinitely - and you might find that you don't actually need a full size oven as much as you thought you did,

Would you consider a slot-in electric oven in the place of your old one? You'd still need the pipes capped off, but if you were moving the oven anyway you'd need gas work.

@GasPanic thanks for the recommendation. I'm not familiar with this company but will look into it.

@NeverDropYourMooncup thanks also for this suggestion. I think we might need a proper oven however.

@ditalini I asked the person who disconnected our old oven about a replacement electric one instead but he thought that as we've already got the gas pipes there, gas would be easier and I prefer cooking with gas. However, I also don't think a slot in oven of any type will now work as the entire cabinetry needs taking out so the faulty twisted gas pipes can be replaced.

The kitchen was originally installed for the previous home owners by JL but they don't do gas ovens anymore from what I can see.

Has anyone revamped their kitchen on a tiny budget? Is this possible?

I'm guessing that you don't have an electric switch that is rated for an oven.

Something to consider is how the expenses compare for installing electric from new to repairing the gas supply, making good any cabinet repairs, and actually sourcing a gas oven. Also, if you are having trouble now to find a gas oven, will you be able to again if it becomes necessary - due to a fault, etc?

A lot to weigh up, but making a change now to either electric or freestanding gas cooker (including oven and hob), might save you a lot in the long run.

BTW, most large retailers like ao.com and currys, etc will take away and recycle your old appliance. It is often included in the delivery/ fitting fee. (I definitely rate ao.com over currys.)

@hedgehoglurker I think that's right and we don't have the correct electric switch for an electric oven. The oven did have an electric flex/plug but this was only for the digital clock on the oven facade and I assume that's not good enough for an electric oven per se.

I see what you mean about replacing with gas oven again and future issues but I don't really know how expensive it'd be to have an electric one and everything needed for that, instead.

Do you know if regulations now mean that I can't install a freestanding oven with hob on top - as opposed to no hob - if there's no extractor fan above the appliance?

Just asking again if anyone knows: can I have a freestanding gas oven with a hob above it, if there's no extractor fan above the appliance and also when there's a wall light switch nearby just to the left?

If no one on here is clear about safety regulations these days, what kind of person would I need to advise me? I really need someone to take a look at the kitchen layout, the gas pipes, the electrics and say what would be best in terms of replacing the previously fitted gas oven but would that need to be a gas safe engineer or a kitchen fitting expert or a large department store that sell appliances?

Don't know where you are, but if in Oxfordshire talk to Talmages: really good on all this stuff and owner-managed. (No connection other than satisfied customer)
https://www.talmages.co.uk/home/

Thanks for the recommendation, @HappyHolidai. Unfortunately, we're not near that area.

I'm still trying to find out whether it's safe to install a free-standing gas oven in the place of an in-built one and whether we'd need some kind of inflammable backing on the kitchen wall?

Is it even OK to have a gas hob without an extractor fan above it?

If anyone can advise me, I'd be really grateful.

I spent all morning yesterday Live Chatting and telephoning to Customer Services at a well known department store that installed the current kitchen - in the 1970s - for the previous owners of our house. Because we couldn't give them the original order number....well of course that's not possible as this was a previous home owner around 40 to 50 years ago)....they said they basically couldn't help, in any way. So that was a dead end.

Sorry, don't know the answer. Perhaps try starting a new thread with Gas Safety Regulations (or similar) in the title. Then someone more knowledgeable will likely spot it. Good luck!

the person who disconnected the leaking old one, says it'd be best to get a freestanding one as it'll be easier to maintain and fit.

I would look into this tbh, you seem to be having an awful lot of stress on the day so of one person. Removing a built in oven and replacing it with a built in oven is by far the easier option in most cases, so check that out first.

Get AO to come and collect the old one now, it's around £30 and will get it out of your way.

The extractor fan is not needed above the oven.

You can buy single built in ovens that have a normal 3 pin plug on them, so don't discount that option either

The manufacturer Stoves do built in and built under gas ovens.