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New build 10 year warranty

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MimiArm · 14/08/2023 22:40

Hello. We are very close to exchange (days away) on a new build property. The property is not in a development (countryside house) and comes with a 10 year warranty.

The warranty provided gives a value that it covers and the value is £125k less than the purchase price. The mortgage lender (NatWest) has said they won't accept this as the value should match the purchase price and they won't lend unless the seller (the builder) increases the warranty cover.

His argument is that the warranty is for the structure of the house only and our own buildings and contents insurance covers the rest, in a worst case scenario that something would be wrong with the house.

His solicitor has now said that he will not pay the extra cost to increase the cover. We can't get our mortgage funds through unless someone pays it.

Has anyone experienced this scenario?

My thoughts are that it's his cost in selling a new build house with a warranty. From what I understand most (if not all) lenders take this same position and so he will already be aware and is chancing his arm. Unless he had a cash buyer, any purchasers lender would insist on this and so the house is not mortgageable without adequate warranty.

At the same time, he's been very good to us. We upgraded lots of the finishes and have yet to pay him a penny. He's given us a key to allow us to move things in already to take the pressure of moving day, etc.

My solicitor has responded that we will cover half the extra cost so waiting on his reply.

We aren't legally bound to proceed so I could be an asshole and say that we will walk away if he doesn't pay it but I don't want to be an asshole and ultimately if we have to pay it to complete we will.

Anyone?

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Thisisnotmyname2022 · 14/08/2023 22:47

My DH thinks the builder may be correct. The cost to build the house is less than the purchase price… however neither of us are experts and that’s just his 2 pence worth.

Same with a TV… warranty usually replaces like for like, even if the cost to replace is less than original purchase price.

Not much help though, sorry.

MimiArm · 14/08/2023 22:53

@Thisisnotmyname2022 - I can see where he is coming from. Even from the point that the the site value isn't being taken into account.

BUT, if all lenders require a new build warranty to match the purchase price of the house, then the seller has to provide a warranty that is acceptable to lenders surely.

Also, playing devils advocate here, we obviously aren't borrowing the purchase price of the house so why don't the bank accept a warranty up to value of the loan?

I can see both sides but ultimately am I being reasonable that it's his cost to bear and therefore it's very reasonable that we've offered to cover 50% of it (which we can't really afford at the minute btw!).

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MimiArm · 14/08/2023 22:55

ps ... also, if the house collapsed due to some structural defect, everything inside would be wiped out too. The builders argument is that the cost is only for the shell of the house - but the entire house would be in ruins.

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Thisisnotmyname2022 · 14/08/2023 23:05

Is this where buildings and contents insurance comes in?

I didn’t buy a new build so can’t advise, but I had to prove to NatWest that my insurance covered the cost of replacing everything should the worst happen. I also needed the value of my mortgage protected with life insurance.

If you lost everything due to structural defect, then yes the builder should be liable and I think you are right.. DH has also said he thinks you are right and didn’t actually listen to what I was saying properly 🙈.

Either way, we have no idea.

MimiArm · 14/08/2023 23:19

Haha fair enough 😂. NatWest know the insurance is in place for the full amount, and life insurance but they specifically need the warranty increased.

Oh well - the email will have been sent begrudgingly offering to pay half of the additional cost so will see what tomorrow brings! 😊

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Thisisnotmyname2022 · 15/08/2023 01:33

I hope you get a reasonable result!

caringcarer · 15/08/2023 02:02

I think Nat West is right here, the building warranty should match the purchase price of the house.

MimiArm · 15/08/2023 22:12

@Thisisnotmyname2022 @caringcarer - We agreed to split the extra cost of increasing the warranty today. At this late stage I didn't want to get into an argument so that's that sorted now 😊

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Thisisnotmyname2022 · 15/08/2023 23:06

Fab! I hope it wasn’t too costly though. Good luck with the move :)

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