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Sound Proofing in Flats - Realistic Expectations

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AristaEss · 11/08/2023 15:49

Hi, we have been having a nightmare hearing impact noises from the flat above us. Its a new build flat (nearly 2 years now) and have always had moments of being disturbed by loud banging or running but recently it has been just taking over the whole day.

Every time we hear running and jumping its like a spike of anxiety and annoyance. Now I am a bit sensitive to noise, BUT if I can hear this using noise cancelling headphones, over a tv that is way louder than I would like or light fixtures in worst case rattling in the ceiling, am I being oversensitive!?

It is a kid causing the majority of the noise, thats the biggest difference to previous tenants. Kids need to be kids, but at the same time at the cost of our sanity?

TL;DR I just want some perspective on what other people might have experienced with this. Am I being overly sensitive? A flat is never going to be quiet I have lived in them for a while now, but after spending so much money on our "own" flat and then living with constant noise for months now its just a bit much.

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KievLoverTwo · 11/08/2023 16:32

I've lived in a 10 year old new build flat and a 12 year old new build detached house in the last 3 years.

In the flat, we had no noise issues whatsoever. We were top floor, one quiet, middle aged neighbour, didn't even hear his TV. Slept like babies.

The house is a different matter entirely. If our LL sold it now, she'd probably get 600 for it. On appearances it looks to be luxury. In reality, the soundproofing is absolutely DREADFUL.

It's 2,350 square ft, so it's massive. I can hear my OH pissing on the opposite side of the house, on a different floor, with doors closed. As in, I can literally hear his wee hitting the water in the toilet. I know when he turns a tap on. I know when he has an upset tummy.

I'm regularly woken up by birds scuttling around on the roof or the top of the chimney where whatever they needed to do re: sound insulation there has been done by the cheapest possible operator.

Does upstairs and your own flat have carpets? I'm sure having none whatsoever here makes things ten times worse.

In short, I think it's down to the quality of the build, and I think our LL did things like install really, really fancy looking fireplaces and a £10,000 Aga but probably told contractors to do whatever was easiest or cheapest when it came to the fabric of the building. Things that should not be cracking, moving, degenerating (wrong word?) and breaking in a 12 yo house are. Is it normal that when you have your loft hatch open, you stand under it and wonder if there's a window open in the room? That happened today. I don't think that's normal.

Anyway, I've had enough of it today. I've given in and ordered the first two things recommended on this list, because I can't cope with the constant noise (it's on a farm, we might as well be on an industrial estate that works 20 hour days, the non stop noise is that bad).

I can't fight it anymore, all I can try to do is try to mitigate the effect it has on me and cope with it. Nobody here or anyone around me is doing anything other than just going about their daily business, but the sound disturbances in the house are insane. Even just the wind blowing makes noises inside the roof space that wakes me up.

https://www.neurodiverging.com/my-favorite-earplugs-for-autism-sound-sensitivity/

I am definitely autistic and my noise sensitivity flares up when I am stressed (which is about 80% of the time).

Day time (normal sponge ones don't work for me, even if I cut them to 1/3rd the size)

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Day time

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£21.95

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KievLoverTwo · 11/08/2023 16:34

One of those should read 'night time' - the list url makes it clear.

Fuckingfuming1 · 11/08/2023 16:47

I had this in a beautiful block of flats. They seem to be very well built. Garages underneath so solid in structure.

Basically we moved because as lovely as the flats were, the noise just came at you from all angles. And was the doing of one woman and her child, which there’s nothing she could do. But I couldn’t live with it either.

MG1412 · 12/08/2023 11:22

I live in an end terrace but the kids next door are so noisy, slamming doors, running around. They are tenants and don't own the property. Fortunately, it is not all of the time, and school holidays will soon be over.

As your flat is a new build, can you take it up with the builder?

Statutory guidance Resistance to sound: Approved Document E
Building regulation in England for the resistance to the passage of sound and sound insulation.

I am disturbed by noise from neighbours coming through the separating wall or floor. Can I get help through the Building Regulations? The Building Regulations apply to new building work, the Regulations are not retrospective, and so do not apply to existing buildings. If you have a problem with a new home you should raise it with the builder or warrantee provider.

MG1412 · 12/08/2023 16:05

I should have added that the upstairs neighbour may be unaware of the sound disturbance. If they are tenants, they may likely fear being evicted if they are causing a nuisance, so have a friendly chat with them.

AristaEss · 14/08/2023 16:56

They are renting (well short term lets the owner is bordering on going against the terms of the lease) and we still have 3 years left on the fixed mortgage.

Apparently they are leaving soon but as its a combination of the tenants and the crappy build quality its pot luck if its going to keep being bad!

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barnesc · 19/06/2024 21:40

I was considering buying a ground floor flat. There are 6 flats in the block, 1950s build. I loved it - it ticks all the boxes but I know what I am like with other people's noise and I daren't risk my peace of mind

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