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Estate agents working hours?

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Onaladder · 30/06/2023 10:47

My partner and I both work at companies. Different locations.
It's nearly impossible to find a good time to go view houses during weekdays unless after 6pm, even then it's tough considering commute time etc

We have been searching for a year and one of the key challenges to our house purchase is.....
Estateg Agents working hours! can you believe it, yes there are the crazy market volatilities, the fluctuating and rising interest rates...the doom of the UK economy, we might get fired etc etc but one of the biggest challenge we are having is getting viewings

I am not from the UK but in my country, Estate Agents work the hours that are more suitable for people who work, like they usually do evenings or early morning during the weekdays and longer work in the weekends but they take days off during the week.

Here it looks like they work exactly same hours or less. Mostly I get "We don't work after 6pm I'm afraid" or "Our saturday viewings are fully booked, you must book at least one week or two weeks in advance"

Sorry just venting because I am so fed up with the agents and the housing market in the past year...and still ongoing...

Do people take days off to view? how does everyone do this while working hard....

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BamBamBambi · 30/06/2023 10:50

Yes people take time off to view a house. It’s pretty standard.

BarbedButterfly · 30/06/2023 10:50

I took time off to view and booked a full day of viewings. In my area most work 8.45am to 5pm

GingeNinga · 30/06/2023 10:54

When we went on the market my estate agent asked if I’d be happy to do viewings, so I did some viewings when potential purchasers were struggling with the weekday block bookings my estate agents held.

I had a few weekday ones between 5-6.30pm and also had one couple view on the Sunday (we had to go back on the market a few times due to bottom of chains breaking 😩).

Badbadbunny · 30/06/2023 10:55

You, take time off work.

Due to the massive demand for house rentals/purchases, estate agents don't really have to work hard to find buyers these days (that may change of course). But even 26 years ago when we bought our house, we were pretty unimpressed that estate agents would put you on their "hot list" but never bother contacting you because as soon as a property hit the market, they'd get lots of enquiries, so didn't need to be proactive.

Same today with our son looking for a flat to rent in a new city for his new job - they ignore phone messages and emails, you basically have to go to the office and present yourself in person to even get a viewing as the viewing sessions get booked up so quickly. Typically the viewing sessions (which they decide on, not negotiable) get booked up within 2/3 hours of the property going on the websites! DS hasn't even managed to get a viewing on any flats yet, and he's been trying all month since his last Uni exam!

Bluevelvetsofa · 30/06/2023 11:00

If I was a prospective vendor, I wouldn’t want prospective purchasers turning up at 8 or 9 at night. It’s hard enough having to be out of the house for viewings and hard to be in the house for viewings, without having the evenings disrupted too. You still have to live in the house whilst it’s for sale.

I expect most people do what’s been suggested- book a day off and see as many as you can.

Roselilly36 · 30/06/2023 11:07

We took a day off each week and block booked viewings, 6-8 in a day, very tiring but worth it, once we were under offer on our house. Good luck OP.

XVGN · 30/06/2023 11:14

No worries. They'll have loads of time available on Saturday's soon, and as they get more desperate to sell properties then they'll start working longer hours.

Until now, for the last few years, properties have sold themselves with little EA effort required at all.

MissCherryCakeyBun · 30/06/2023 11:16

"Booking a day off" if only it were so easy, many of us can really struggle to book time off to do things like this....can you imagine the furore on here if teachers started booking days off to go and do house viewings?
Also we live rurally and can end up driving over an hour each way to suitable viewings and despite our best plans the houses can be miles apart so it's just not practical to view many ( or even more than 1) in a day when fitting in different estate agents and sellers.
I'm with the OP here some flexibility would be amazing....some EA's seem to work part time as GP receptionists it's that hard to get a viewing GrinGrinGrin

pizzaHeart · 30/06/2023 11:25

6pm? Here it’s 5 pm . And they have separate people for every possible sneeze so the ones who read emails don’t communicate with those who’s seen owners and those who’s dealt with owners don’t communicate with those who does viewings. I’m SAHM and when we were house hunting it was like my part time job dealing with EAs and researching before rushed 15 minutes viewing.

Badbadbunny · 30/06/2023 11:27

XVGN · 30/06/2023 11:14

No worries. They'll have loads of time available on Saturday's soon, and as they get more desperate to sell properties then they'll start working longer hours.

Until now, for the last few years, properties have sold themselves with little EA effort required at all.

I'm not so sure, there'll always be people needing to buy/rent a home. Prices may well come down, but that just brings others into the market. I've been through a couple of housing crashes, including the bad 90/91 crash, and EAs remained busy. The houses that didn't sell were usually grossly overpriced compared to the market at the time - sensibly priced houses still sold well.

XVGN · 30/06/2023 11:31

Badbadbunny · 30/06/2023 11:27

I'm not so sure, there'll always be people needing to buy/rent a home. Prices may well come down, but that just brings others into the market. I've been through a couple of housing crashes, including the bad 90/91 crash, and EAs remained busy. The houses that didn't sell were usually grossly overpriced compared to the market at the time - sensibly priced houses still sold well.

I also bought in the late 80's and EA's would do viewings in the evenings (both my partner and I worked). They'll be desperate soon and will have to start working a lot harder for their commission.

CatsOnTheChair · 30/06/2023 11:35

Totally depends where you live.
Round here, the vendor typically does the viewing. That means the most likely times are evenings and weekends, as the vendor is home from work.
I cant imaging getting everyone out of the house in the morning, and leaving the place fit for a viewing. And how do you hide evidence of cats for that period of time? A couple of hours with no food or little, fine. All day? Impossible! Sounds like a nightmare to me!
So, no. We didn't take any time off work for viewings, but had many Saturday afternoons with one of us entertaining the kids in the park, the car stuffed full of pet stuff, and viewings. Same for Evenings.

Badbadbunny · 30/06/2023 12:30

XVGN · 30/06/2023 11:31

I also bought in the late 80's and EA's would do viewings in the evenings (both my partner and I worked). They'll be desperate soon and will have to start working a lot harder for their commission.

No they won't. They'll just advise the sellers to reduce their prices and there'll be lots of buyers eager to view at lower prices. Demand for homes is never going to fall with the ever increasing population so EAs will always be busy. Houses sell/rent themselves at the right price.

XVGN · 30/06/2023 15:40

Badbadbunny · 30/06/2023 12:30

No they won't. They'll just advise the sellers to reduce their prices and there'll be lots of buyers eager to view at lower prices. Demand for homes is never going to fall with the ever increasing population so EAs will always be busy. Houses sell/rent themselves at the right price.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/mortgage-approvals

Mortgage approvals never recovered from the 2007 crisis. So (proceed-able) demand did fall even with the ever increasing population.

United Kingdom Mortgage Approvals - May 2023 Data - 1986-2022 Historical

Net approvals for house purchases in the United Kingdom, which serve as an indicator of future borrowing, increased to 50.5 thousand in May 2023, up from the revised 49.0 thousand recorded in the previous month and surpassing market expectations of 49....

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/mortgage-approvals

Roaminginthegloaming · 30/06/2023 16:23

This is what happens when I was selling our house in the USA to move back to England (my husband had already relocated back to the UK….just as well as he’s very untidy!).

Most realtors (estate agents) in the US are basically self-employed but usually work through a realty company such as Re-Max, Keller Williams. You use a realtor for buying and selling. Commission rates are high; generally 5% or even 6% which is then split between the buyer’s and the seller’s realtors. It’s extremely competitive, especially in expensive towns where houses can cost in the $millions. Your property goes on the MLS (Multiple Listing Service) which the realtors use to find properties to recommend that their clients should visit. Tbh it’s pretty much like a cartel as they pretty much freeze out anyone whom is trying to ‘sell by owner’, although I understand that you can actually pay to go on the MLS; it’s only if the realtor will be assured of their 2.5% or 3% commission. The realtors faces are plastered all over the local media and they are always, always looking for the next lead.

The realtor who we used to sell our house wasn’t a very pleasant woman but had an aggressive selling strategy, using all kinds of social media. However, the norm in our area was that there would be a ‘Realtors Open Day’ (usually on a Tuesday) where all the local realtors would come to your house whilst you had to make yourself scarce and your own realtor would be the ‘hostess’ and some of them provide snacks/cakes etc. They usually sign a sheet or/and leave business cards which is shown to you by the realtor.

A couple of days later your property goes ‘live’ on the MLS and the realtor’s company website. By this time the visiting realtors (have hopefully) recommended your house to their clients. My experience (and that of friends who also sold property locally) was that in no way does your own realtor want you to show your property around -they want to be in total control of the ‘business transaction’ and don’t want emotions to be brought into it or for you to highlight any possible faults with the property.

The realtor will generally have an ‘Open House’ on a Sunday afternoon for any potential purchaser to view and your realtor or their rep from their office (if they have more than one house to sell) is in situ and one is encouraged to sign in with contact details. They hope that enough excitement is generated that on Monday morning the offers come in…. They will host more than one Open House if not sold quickly. The seller must make themselves scarce and are often informed by the realtor to go away for the weekend!

Now….this is something that I don’t think would really fly in the UK: Realtors expect to put a ‘lock box’ on your front door. This means that as soon as they get a request for a viewing, the prospective buyer comes with their own realtor - but you are not supposed to be there and have to go to a local coffee shop or to the mall etc. You leave a front door key in the lock box and the code to open it is given by your realtor to the buyer’s realtor. I don’t know how often the code is changed, but they have apparently been fully vetted and sign up to some kind of State operator’s licence. I often got only 20-30 minutes’ notice that a viewer was arriving. Many local owners had young children and long commutes, but they were still expected to make the house look presentable even on a working day. It’s exhausting.

If a house hadn’t sold within a month then the realtors expect the sellers to make drastic reductions.

The only upside that I could see is that (in our State) once an agreement to purchase was confirmed in writing, it would go into a ‘three day attorney review’ and then one is committed to the purchase. The property then ‘closes’ (completes) in 30 - 60 days. I was leaving the USA and was able to organise shipment of our household contents quickly so chose a 30 day closing, staying in an hotel for the last 3 nights before departure to the UK.

Now…..the Realtors work long hours (I was getting text messages, e-mails and phone calls from our realtor at all times of the day and evening, including weekends. They’re motivated to sell your property quickly to get the commission and move onto the next (potential) client. Rather like eating in restaurants in big US cities….a quick turnover means more tips/commission.

When I moved back to England and was looking for a house 3 hours away it as an absolute nightmare trying to get viewings organised….we could only go at weekends and half the time there was no-one from the estate agency to show us (on one occasion an elderly couple were selling and as the agent wasn’t available decided to show us their house themselves. They did an admirable job….but then the old lady burst into tears as she couldn’t bear to leave the house they’d spent many happy years in, but ill health meant they needed to relocate closer to their daughter). I felt guilty so didn’t buy their house!

Onaladder · 30/06/2023 16:48

We are FTBs looking in London and looking at all of zone 1-3, so considering the distance from one place to another, it's very tough to do one day full viewings...Impossible to schedule many in one area fitting our budget and requirements...
House buying is such a nightmare here. It needs a whole new project planning just to schedule in viewings haha

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tracylamont13 · 30/06/2023 17:06

We took time off work and booked as many viewings as we could in a day.

Bleambx · 30/06/2023 18:43

Coming at this from (recently sold) vendors who both work full time.

It’s really hard trying to juggle a tidy house, pets, working and house viewings. And we don’t even have kids!

Having agents round during the day when the house was tidy and everyone out was far easier than working all day, tidying everyone’s mess, spending evenings doing viewings or even cancelling plans to accommodate and lovely buyers not bothering to turning up!

When our buyer fell through, we switched to block bookings on 1x day as it made our lives so much easier. We came to the conclusion that if someone liked the house enough, they’d make time to view it.

Vendors may have/had loads of people around and sometimes people forget the owners also need to live in their house too.

Fallulah · 01/07/2023 11:06

Yes, this! You have to have a decent job to buy a house, so why were most viewings only available during working hours? Around here the last viewings were 5:30pm if you were lucky and only up until 4 on Saturdays.

I’m a teacher (I’ll just take a day off shall I? 😆) and my partner works Saturdays. It was a nightmare. I could sometimes get to a 5pm viewing in the week if there was one available so I ended up doing a lot of viewings on my own and then relying on the goodwill of my partner’s boss to let him finish half an hour early for a second viewing if I saw one we’d like.

What’s more annoying is when a property comes to market and you phone for a viewing only to be told ‘we’re booking for a day of viewings’ in over a week’s time! I know exactly why they do it - so that viewers cross over on the doorstep and feel pressure of demand to make an offer - but when your house is sold and you need to find one the delay is ridiculous! When I was selling I allowed viewings whenever they wanted them (and I had dog paraphernalia and dog to remove) to get it sold!

SilverGlitterBaubles · 01/07/2023 11:14

It is not just about agents working hours it is also about vendors not wanting viewings in the evenings or at weekends. It is more convenient to have viewings when you are out at work, who wants a viewing when they are just back from work, having dinner or putting kids to bed.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 01/07/2023 11:19

Also a reminder how many time wasters agents deal with, some people view properties like a hobby, make appointments and don't show up, take appointments others could have had, lie about their financial situation and ability to buy. And you think agents already working very long hours for mostly rubbish pay should work late into the evening to facilitate these time wasters.

XVGN · 01/07/2023 11:24

SilverGlitterBaubles · 01/07/2023 11:19

Also a reminder how many time wasters agents deal with, some people view properties like a hobby, make appointments and don't show up, take appointments others could have had, lie about their financial situation and ability to buy. And you think agents already working very long hours for mostly rubbish pay should work late into the evening to facilitate these time wasters.

Have you never heard of shift working?

Swrigh1234 · 01/07/2023 11:58

Estate agents in this country are not qualified, hence the standard in this industry is very low. Anyone can put on a suit and call themselves an EA, unlike the US for example.

Lonecatwithkitten · 01/07/2023 14:48

Not all agents are the same so can only offer you a viewing on a Tuesday with a blue moon, one such house that I wanted to view is still for sale two years later.
The agent we eventually bought through were very clued up identified two well motivated cash buyers, told us about the property at 4.45pm Monday, we viewed it 1pm Tuesday and had bought buy 3pm Tuesday.

1pm Tuesday was my lunch hour and the gap my husband had between ending a meeting and heading to the airport.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 01/07/2023 15:10

Estate agency are moving increasingly online with the sometimes with opportunity for vendors to do their own viewings