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Who is still buying/selling regardless

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Kay286 · 29/06/2023 16:04

Just that really… with all the doom and gloom in the market who are the buyers/sellers going on regardless of interest rates ?
we have to sell our U.K. property , it was tenanted and now vacant and are buying abroad (in much more bouyant market with properties going over asking and average prices approx $1m!) so really need to get rid of U.K. house for the equity and it’s ok an awful variable rate 7.74!

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Secondwindplease · 29/06/2023 16:09

We’re still buying and really excited about it. We got £20k off the asking price of £465k because we’re very proceedable and the sellers are moving abroad. The house is structurally sound and averagely decorated but we will do it up to a high spec over time. It’s in a lovely spa town and we will be moving from a very rural area, so we can’t wait for the lifestyle change that will come with it. We are occasionally nervous about the general economic landscape, but we‘re really ready for this move, we’ve got contingencies if necessary and we hope to be there long enough to weather any storms. Life goes on, even with those bonkers Tories in charge!

Secondwindplease · 29/06/2023 16:09

Also we are not buying at the top of our affordability, which helps.

KievLoverTwo · 29/06/2023 16:20

I shouldn't be buying and I keep telling my OH that we absolutely shouldn't buy now, but, I guess you need context. Originally, we were looking at houses in the 400-475k bracket. We had a 465k house fall through, which, frankly, is a relief, because were were going in at 95% LTV as FTBs, and, even though one of the primary reasons for buying it is the EXTREME and constant house price rises in that area over the last 15 years, I no longer think that's going to be the case in the future.

If they sell it in this market for more than 440k, I think they'll be lucky.

However, despite agreeing with the OH that we'll save up a 10% deposit plus at least a 10k slush fund over the next 18-22 months to protect from this scenario (whilst waiting for prices to fall and interest rates to stabilise), I can't keep my damn twitchy finger off Rightmove. HOWEVER.

We will no longer buy a house that's borderline reckless when it comes to outgoings and negative equity (well, it never was reckless persay, we would've had 2.1k disposable, but it was a very old house which could require expensive maintenance and needed a new kitchen, bathroom, carpets and a downstairs loo putting in).

I am mostly looking in the 300-375k bracket now, so if we really find something that will work for us, we can afford to overpay and thus avoid getting stuck on an horrific SVR in the future.

It is mostly half hearted, but we do live in a rental that I don't want to live in (mainly because it's in the centre of a farm, can be seen into from all four sides, constantly smells of shit and is impossible to keep clean). But, we have a very good LL, so nobody's forcing us to move. We're just of an age where we're sick of putting up with other people's shit: not enough plug points, floors which are impossible to keep clean, doors that have to be brutally yanked open and closed, no privacy glass in the bathrooms and dressing rooms, windows that are really hard to open and let flies in when closed. Stuff that just grind you down on a daily basis that you would just fix if you owned a home.

So part of my half hearted searches on Rightmove atm include the following keywords:

Realistic (realistically priced to sell - interestingly when I searched this word today, very few with that key word had been on longer than 2 months)

Motivated (motivated seller, will get their arse in gear/consider any offers)

Chain (chain free, no onward chain)

Annexe (a 3 bed with an annexe would work just as well as a 4 bed)

Vacant (obvious, but that also brings up vacant possession which means nothing)

All offers considered (some are cropping up with this, usually by houses done up by flippers, one even says 'any and all offers considered')

Extended (again, a smaller house with an extension may work on our budget better than a massive house)

What would really motivate me to view a property at the moment is: exceptionally realistically priced, and in good order throughout including half decent bathrooms and kitchens. Without a chain is by far my preference, not because we couldn't afford a 6.5 or even 7.5% mortgage rate, but mostly just because I can in no way be bothered with the menance of extremely volatile chains right now.

Have your tenants left? You need to sell the property vacant unless it's in a high demand area.

Threeladsandaweelassie · 29/06/2023 16:56

Mine has just gone up, I think it would sell quite quickly if I could get some viewings, but such an uncertain market, it really is.
I feel bad for everyone in this market if I'm honest. It's a shitty unpredictable time.

Kay286 · 29/06/2023 16:59

Secondwindplease · 29/06/2023 16:09

Also we are not buying at the top of our affordability, which helps.

Yes I think if it’s done sensibly and you have a back up for higher rates some flex in disposable income etc

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Blanketenvy · 29/06/2023 17:02

Trying to! The market is still crazy where I am, everything going for over asking, can't even get a viewing at some places. Old first time buyers do just need to persevere but it's really miserable.

Kay286 · 29/06/2023 17:02

KievLoverTwo · 29/06/2023 16:20

I shouldn't be buying and I keep telling my OH that we absolutely shouldn't buy now, but, I guess you need context. Originally, we were looking at houses in the 400-475k bracket. We had a 465k house fall through, which, frankly, is a relief, because were were going in at 95% LTV as FTBs, and, even though one of the primary reasons for buying it is the EXTREME and constant house price rises in that area over the last 15 years, I no longer think that's going to be the case in the future.

If they sell it in this market for more than 440k, I think they'll be lucky.

However, despite agreeing with the OH that we'll save up a 10% deposit plus at least a 10k slush fund over the next 18-22 months to protect from this scenario (whilst waiting for prices to fall and interest rates to stabilise), I can't keep my damn twitchy finger off Rightmove. HOWEVER.

We will no longer buy a house that's borderline reckless when it comes to outgoings and negative equity (well, it never was reckless persay, we would've had 2.1k disposable, but it was a very old house which could require expensive maintenance and needed a new kitchen, bathroom, carpets and a downstairs loo putting in).

I am mostly looking in the 300-375k bracket now, so if we really find something that will work for us, we can afford to overpay and thus avoid getting stuck on an horrific SVR in the future.

It is mostly half hearted, but we do live in a rental that I don't want to live in (mainly because it's in the centre of a farm, can be seen into from all four sides, constantly smells of shit and is impossible to keep clean). But, we have a very good LL, so nobody's forcing us to move. We're just of an age where we're sick of putting up with other people's shit: not enough plug points, floors which are impossible to keep clean, doors that have to be brutally yanked open and closed, no privacy glass in the bathrooms and dressing rooms, windows that are really hard to open and let flies in when closed. Stuff that just grind you down on a daily basis that you would just fix if you owned a home.

So part of my half hearted searches on Rightmove atm include the following keywords:

Realistic (realistically priced to sell - interestingly when I searched this word today, very few with that key word had been on longer than 2 months)

Motivated (motivated seller, will get their arse in gear/consider any offers)

Chain (chain free, no onward chain)

Annexe (a 3 bed with an annexe would work just as well as a 4 bed)

Vacant (obvious, but that also brings up vacant possession which means nothing)

All offers considered (some are cropping up with this, usually by houses done up by flippers, one even says 'any and all offers considered')

Extended (again, a smaller house with an extension may work on our budget better than a massive house)

What would really motivate me to view a property at the moment is: exceptionally realistically priced, and in good order throughout including half decent bathrooms and kitchens. Without a chain is by far my preference, not because we couldn't afford a 6.5 or even 7.5% mortgage rate, but mostly just because I can in no way be bothered with the menance of extremely volatile chains right now.

Have your tenants left? You need to sell the property vacant unless it's in a high demand area.

The tenants have left now … we actually sold while they were still in to ftb and gave notice. Then the buyers pulled out ! The most frustrating bit is it now looks like the property is lingering unsold which isn’t the case we sold within 2 weeks but had to go back on.
it’s vacant , we are selling without a chain , it’s probably one the cheapest 4 bed in our area it’s fairly decent condition it’s been professionally cleaned since tenants left but will have some signs or wear - nothing a bit of paint can’t fixed. The kitchens bathrooms etc are not out-dated - I just need someone to buy it 😂

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Kay286 · 29/06/2023 17:04

@Blanketenvy really where are you ? Same market for us to buy in, but we are North America houses are eye watering insane ! I’ll prob have about 250k equity to put down but that won’t touch the sides here

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KievLoverTwo · 29/06/2023 17:08

Kay286 · 29/06/2023 17:02

The tenants have left now … we actually sold while they were still in to ftb and gave notice. Then the buyers pulled out ! The most frustrating bit is it now looks like the property is lingering unsold which isn’t the case we sold within 2 weeks but had to go back on.
it’s vacant , we are selling without a chain , it’s probably one the cheapest 4 bed in our area it’s fairly decent condition it’s been professionally cleaned since tenants left but will have some signs or wear - nothing a bit of paint can’t fixed. The kitchens bathrooms etc are not out-dated - I just need someone to buy it 😂

Urgh, that's really frustrating. Sounds like you are doing everything right.

Does your current advert say 're-listed due to chain collapse'? I think this is pretty key for people who have seen it before and perhaps assume something is wrong with it.

When was the last time the advert went out? Even a £500 reduction will have it reappear fresh in RM searches/inbox alerts.

Karmatime · 29/06/2023 17:09

We’ve just bought, sold last year and have been renting. A financially savvy friend of mine advised we hold off another year, invest the sale proceeds in a 5+% savings account and use the interest to pay rent, then buy next year when prices will have dropped further. However we found the perfect property and plan to stay a long time. The flat we are renting is ok but it’s not big enough so we can’t properly unpack, I have stuff in a friend’s garage and the place is cold in winter with expensive inefficient electric heaters. I just want to settle and get on with life.

PurplePear7 · 29/06/2023 17:13

I am relocating so need to!

I am going for a new build just for ease. I’m not putting all my available cash in but my mortgage will be pretty huge. Luckily I’m porting my current mortgage which is 1.97% for another 4 years.

Realistically I’ll only be in this house for 4/5 years so I’m stressssssed but I don’t think I have any other option.

Kay286 · 29/06/2023 17:15

@KievLoverTwo no it doesn’t mention any reason for relisting, I’ll speak to the agents about that ! We have a viewing tomorrow so unless they offer I think we need to drop a little to bump it again !

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Wednesdayonline · 29/06/2023 17:53

We are buying as FTB. Renting is just not working after so many years of it so we are desperate to move! Nowhere near the top of our affordability, and we have calculated to make sure we can afford monthly payments at least 10% interest rate if it came to it. The property we have chosen we can also spend 10 years or so in due to the size so if it came to it and we were in negative equity we'd ride it out. Tough times but renting isn't always a good answer either with increasing rents, threat of house being sold, and landlords who never sort any issues!!

honeyandfizz · 29/06/2023 19:34

I SSTC in April and am moving in two weeks. I have a 4 year fixed rate mortgage and will be overpaying by several hundred a month (and living off beans on toast 😂). I have around 50% equity and this will be my last move before I retire in 14 years time. I managed to get 8k off the asking but I got a very good offer on mine so am not really concerned about over paying plus the market here is still buoyant - popular market town which is seeing plenty of London money coming in (my buyer is one). If my interest rate shoots up at the end of my fixed term I will simply do another shift a month to cover it which is easily done in my line of work. I am very excited as it is everything I have wanted.

Bleambx · 29/06/2023 19:52

Also buying/selling! It’s been… interesting to say the least 🤣 with 3 buyers failing to get a mortgage. Now onto our 4th and things are looking good.

Offer accepted on our dream (hopefully not far off forever) home in late April. 5% off asking price at 700k. We’re both 28 so feels like a huge commitment but we both earn high salaries with great career progression.

Whatwouldyouoffer · 29/06/2023 20:23

Ah, OP! I’m sorry your buyers pulled out. I remember your post from earlier this year. It’s such a tricky situation with such different markets in the U.K. vs North America. Keeping fingers crossed for you.

EffortlessDesmond · 29/06/2023 21:16

We are in the process of retiring, and selling the business we have created which makes life more complex. We don't want to stay where we are and would like to move about 200 miles away, to be closer to family and friends. We'd also like to buy something a bit smaller than our family house, which is lovely while DC still lives with us, but their next stage is likely to be London or SE, so we would want to stick a contribution in to that pot too. Not that bothered about the number of bedrooms (at least two essential) but we'd prefer more social space, if there had to be a trade-off My opinion of retirement still sees us entertaining and having visitors. Looking at the EA window locally, I think we'd probably still get most of the 2020 valuation. But not the really frothy prices.

Kay286 · 29/06/2023 22:58

Yes it’s definitely tricky ! Trying to get a quick fair priced sale but also needing every penny towards an insanely priced house here …. It’s so daunting we could pretty much be mortgage free in U.K. but we will be starting again with a huge mortgage and a fairly average house ! Thank you though :)

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Kay286 · 29/06/2023 22:59

Kay286 · 29/06/2023 22:58

Yes it’s definitely tricky ! Trying to get a quick fair priced sale but also needing every penny towards an insanely priced house here …. It’s so daunting we could pretty much be mortgage free in U.K. but we will be starting again with a huge mortgage and a fairly average house ! Thank you though :)

That’s to @Whatwouldyouoffer !

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Whatwouldyouoffer · 22/09/2023 22:37

Hey OP! How is your sale going?? All good I hope 🤞 Just idle curiosity…

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