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Wren kitchen nightmare

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Lena6789 · 07/06/2023 18:31

Hello Mumsnet, my first post here as somebody told me that this wonderful community has got quite a big influence on businesses.
Might be quite a long one, need to went and warn other people thinking to use Wren kitchens.
During our visits to Sunderland show room, my husband and | were reassured that the installation will take 5 to 10 working days. Although we found the installation price quite high, more that £14k, for us it was worth it as the designer explained that Wren uses professional approved installers that ‘will take the hard work out of brining my new kitchen to life and get the job done quickly, efficiently and beautifully’.
Design that they offered me was not good at all, for some reason we were offered the cheapest option, mismatched appliances and minimum units. I’ve basically redesigned the lot myself.
I was assigned an installer, who agreed to start supplementary works on 30/01/23, but cancelled on 04/01/23. | was assigned a second installer, who cancelled on 25/01/23. I nearly passed out as the works were supposed to start on the 30/01/23, ripping old kitchen out, doing electrics and plastering. | was reassured by Wren that the third installer, although at a very short notice, will be a competent installer certified by Wren, and will be able to commence the works without any delays. Later I found out that he is an absolute cowboy and a nightmare to deal with, as he is local and I’ve asked around about him.
The two-man delivery on was in fact a one-man delivery as the
driver of delivery van said that he cannot leave the vehicle and left his colleague to carry fully assembled kitchen units and appliances on his own. My husband had to help.
My kitchen is just over 10 sq m in size. So not palatial by any means, we live in a tiny pit house.
On Monday 06/02/23 the installer and his son tuned up at around 9 am, the installer left after about 20 min for another job. The son’s first worlds to my husband were ‘Well this is all f*ed up’, because he was unhappy with the way the units and appliances were stored in our home. No we don’t have a garage to store things in. Then he attempted to install 3 tall units, which according to Wren installation manuals require two persons to install safely. My husband was worried that the units will be damaged and had to help. Hubby is 65 and can do a lot of DIY but we went to Wren precisely so he wouldn’t need to do anything.
On Tuesday most of the units were kind of in place, worktops fitted, but the
sink was installed in a wrong way, with the waste and overflow at 90-degree angle to the tap. The installer advised that there were issues with waste pipes and tap so | couldn’t use the sink due to those issues. When | pointed out to him that the sink is installed incorrectly, he said ‘You still will be able to use it even if it doesn’t look like this in the brochure’, but agreed to turn the sink so the waste, overflow and tap are in alignment. The unit for housing the boiler was not cut to size and again, he only agreed to amend this after an argument that the unit cannot stick out to partially block my back door.
On Wednesday the son was attempting to tile the splashback. I’ve had to stop him from completing the job as what he was doing was horrendous and he was damaging a lot of expensive (for me) tiles in the process. Later I’ve had to get a tiler who charged me more just to get it right. Plus the son’s mate was in our home as well, most of the time they were in the kitchen, sitting on the floor and drinking Red Bull, clearly hungover.
By then we realised that our dream kitchen is turning into a complete nightmare and were so stressed that we literally could not sleep.
On Thursday the installer was at our home from 10 am until about midday. He refitted the sink but damaged it in the process. The fridge freezer was installed without a vent in the plinth. The plinths ware damaged when cut to length. Not one door was in alignment.
| have contacted Wren installation support who reassured me that he is a very professional installer with lots of experience, however he has other jobs on the go, but will complete the works as agreed and in a good time.
On Saturday he was working between 8.30 am and 5 pm, rushing to complete the job. There was also a leak from underneath of the washing machine which we’ve noticed late on Saturday, after he has left, although | haven’t used the washing machine at all. When we looked at what was done with the new kitchen, and the quality of work, we’ve decided that we need an installation supervisor to attend before our kitchen is damaged beyond repair.
The supervisor attended on Tuesday the following week and after inspecting the works agreed that the works’ standard is not acceptable, and we will be assigned a new installer. New sink, tap worktop and end panels were ordered. The items were delivered a week later, for which I’ve had to take additional time off work, and the new installer started remedial works.
The remedial installer commented that it was a completely shocking installation, and some things such as wrong hight of the end panels, or alignment of the drawer fronts, cannot be fixed without ripping units out. The fridge freezer vent was found behind one of the plinths. Water supply to the dishwasher and washing machine had to be redone, also some of the end panels, filler pieces, drawer doors and runners, and the new door for the dishwasher was deemed not right as well. After another call to the installation
team, yet another new door was ordered.
The supervisor attended again, to inspect remedial works, and assigned us installer number 5, to remedy remedial works. As there were more items to deliver, another week with no kitchen, sick to death of ready meals, Macdonalds and ailrfrying in my bedroom, washing dishes in the bathroom, asking neighbours to use their washer. All in all, a whole month to fit a 10 sq m kitchen.
Could have built an extension.
Two weeks later I’ve found that the worktop was damaged underneath the overhang, Wren offered me £270 to live with it, or a replacement. I’ve agreed to replace it.
Obviously I’ve complained. My complaint was ignored by Wren customer service until I’ve emailed customer service director directly. She is called Gemma Kerrigan [email protected] in case anyone needs it. Found it by furiously googling.
Wren resolution team said that they can offer me £200 as compensation, when I refused it they’ve raised it to £450. I went to Furniture Ombudsman who said that this is a fair offer, so I’ve accepted it as I just want to move on and haven’t got the strength to go through small claims.
If you’ve made it to the end of my rant, thank you 😊 feels better to get it out of my head.
If you still think of buying Wren kitchen - the quality is not bad, but honestly no better than IKEA, and please please please get your own installer. Our installation price was £4k, if we’ve found our own, it would have been £2k.

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KievLoverTwo · 07/06/2023 18:56

I need a stiff drink.

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 07/06/2023 19:02

Theres a group on facebook called 'wren kitchens disasters'. Join it.

Has 10k plus members. They're great on advice and steps to remedy qnd reach a resolution you're hopefully happy with.

Lena6789 · 07/06/2023 19:18

Sorry I realise it’s rather a long rant 😕on a positive side I was so stressed that done dry January AND February this year

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Ilikewinter · 07/06/2023 19:18

Wow, thats stressed me out just reading your story OP. Glad its sorted now though and you can move on....and hopefully enjoy your kitchen

Lena6789 · 07/06/2023 19:20

Thank you, but I gave up FB about 4 years ago, couldn’t cope with competition. I’ve accepted that it is what it it with my kitchen and tbh just happy that there are no more hordes of poorly trained workmen traipsing through my house, and just want to make people aware that Wren is far from no 1 installer

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Lena6789 · 07/06/2023 19:22

Ilikewinter · 07/06/2023 19:18

Wow, thats stressed me out just reading your story OP. Glad its sorted now though and you can move on....and hopefully enjoy your kitchen

Thanks, I’m used to now and can cook as usual, was hard for me without kitchen as I cook to relax. Still miss my old IKEA one tho

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rose69 · 07/06/2023 20:52

They are really crap. I had to stand in the shop and complain loudly I order to get manager to respond and get something done. Was pleased to put a couple of people off buying from there.

Lena6789 · 07/06/2023 21:47

rose69 · 07/06/2023 20:52

They are really crap. I had to stand in the shop and complain loudly I order to get manager to respond and get something done. Was pleased to put a couple of people off buying from there.

One of the things that annoyed me - they didn’t respond to my phone calls and emails until I emailed the director. Apparently they don’t pay their installers on time hence they leave or do other jobs at the same time.

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Guineapigwoes · 07/06/2023 22:37

We rejected wren found the sales team
really pushy and just wanted to install like for like when we wanted to redesign some elements

Went with ikea, better price and 25 year guarantee. Their fitter was brill too.

Sorry it’s been so shit op 💐

rrrrrreatt · 08/06/2023 00:17

Oh god, this sounds horrendous!! Wren told us it wasn’t possible to design a kitchen for our slightly awkwardly shaped kitchen and I think it was a lucky escape. They suggested a design that didn’t have enough cupboards to store food as well as pots and plates then told me to go away and consider whether I was going to board up an internal door or have an extension.

I ended up designing my own kitchen, with help from a Facebook group and a friend, and Howdens are supplying it. When their guy came round he said he couldn’t see what the problem was with my kitchen!! Wren also said we couldn’t get the kitchen we’d like for under £10k excluding appliances and fitting - we’ve paid Howdens just under £5k and I’ll be surprised if we hit 10k including fitting, appliances, flooring, etc.

HeddaGarbled · 08/06/2023 00:26

Just to provide balance, we got a Wren kitchen and are very happy with it and the process. I think good kitchen fitters can pick and choose their jobs at the moment. Ours said he was already booked up for the next 10 months. That’s national, and not specific to Wren. Covid? Brexit?

BlueMongoose · 08/06/2023 15:20

HeddaGarbled · 08/06/2023 00:26

Just to provide balance, we got a Wren kitchen and are very happy with it and the process. I think good kitchen fitters can pick and choose their jobs at the moment. Ours said he was already booked up for the next 10 months. That’s national, and not specific to Wren. Covid? Brexit?

If Wren can't find enough decent fitters, they should take on less work, it's as simple as that. One thing I learned in business is that if you are in charge, you are responsible for all the work you delegate.
Personally I'd never consider using any national kitchen/bathroom design company, I have heard so many bad stories. I do mine myself, but if I didn't feel able to, I'd go for a small local firm based on recommendations of people I knew- a firm that's been around a long time for preference.

Lena6789 · 08/06/2023 16:56

BlueMongoose · 08/06/2023 15:20

If Wren can't find enough decent fitters, they should take on less work, it's as simple as that. One thing I learned in business is that if you are in charge, you are responsible for all the work you delegate.
Personally I'd never consider using any national kitchen/bathroom design company, I have heard so many bad stories. I do mine myself, but if I didn't feel able to, I'd go for a small local firm based on recommendations of people I knew- a firm that's been around a long time for preference.

My first kitchen was IKEA, and I’ve had a great fitter, unfortunately he left for Ireland. And hubby wanted all inclusive (against my wish, but you have to let them have their own way sometimes). Must admit it sounded great in the showroom, remove old kitchen, get rid of the rubbish, fit in 5 to 10 days … never again.

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Lena6789 · 08/06/2023 16:57

Guineapigwoes · 07/06/2023 22:37

We rejected wren found the sales team
really pushy and just wanted to install like for like when we wanted to redesign some elements

Went with ikea, better price and 25 year guarantee. Their fitter was brill too.

Sorry it’s been so shit op 💐

Wish I’ve done the same. Never mind. Hope people read this and think twice before going to Wren.

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AgnesX · 08/06/2023 17:19

I have to say I wouldn't go with Wren again. The quality of the units for the price was just "ok". It was the installer who made it. He did just about everything - him and his mate. The tiler and idiot who came to measure for the worktops inspired zero confidence and again the end product was just "ok".

Next time, if there is a next time, it'll be someone totally different as I was so underwhelmed.

Toddlerteaplease · 09/06/2023 02:36

I had a really good experience with Wren. I did use an independent fitter as it was cheaper.

Toddlerteaplease · 09/06/2023 02:37

The fitter had a really long waiting list but I was very happy to wait for him.

Roselilly36 · 09/06/2023 07:47

Sorry you had a bad experience OP, I haven’t heard good things about Wren either tbh. The best advice I can give anyone is always take the credit option with a large purchase, thank goodness we did this when we bought some very expensive sofas from furniture village, that were very poor quality, the finance company, helped bring about a resolution. If we had paid cash we wouldn’t have got anywhere with them I am sure.

LINDAHOAD · 05/08/2023 15:15

wren kitchens are rubbish - measured the kitchen all wrong the surveyor and the designer and then said we should have checked the measurements - it was not a new design just replacing dark units with new ones. worktops were measured wrong so fridge would not go in - boiler cupboard previously in a line with units - not now wren says box it in like a 1950's kitchen. stress and hassle for months 3 different fitters - wren paid £1,000 compensation and now paint is rubbing off some units. 6 months old. we are in our seventies and wanted new units hassle free. we were taken in by the showroom and the designer - one of the problems was that their worktops are not made to measure they have a few sizes and these all have to be adapted. it is a complete mess and now the paint is rubbing off - several door were rejected initially because of colour differences so we will have the same again now with the bad paint ones.

AVOID WRENS - once they have the money and the order they are not interested

lh

Marleymoo42 · 29/09/2023 15:32

I know this is an old thread but just want to comment to bring it to everyone's attention. Having my own Wren issues. The nastiest company I have ever dealt with. Please steer clear. I am an educated adult in a customer facing role. I deal and resolve problems all day. I felt like they were trying to intimidate me on the phone and point blank lied. I am deciding where to go next with this.

All I can say is it must be such an incredibly toxic company to work for if no-one is daring to question treatment of customers.

If they give you lovely pictures of your future kitchen or a nice VR experience be warned! Your kitchen might not look like that and if you try and complain you will be told the pictures were for illustrative purposes only and wont even apologise for disappointment or attempt to resolve the resolvable issue. When the money's paid, they don't care.

I'm sorry that so many other people have had for worse experience than us. Google 'Wren disasters' if you want more examples.

Roselilly36 · 29/09/2023 18:58

If you have brought your wren kitchen on finance 🤞speak to them,they will help broker a solution. Good luck,never ever make a big purchase via cash, if it goes wrong there is no where to go.

LINDAHOAD · 29/09/2023 19:01

we used our own fitter but the measurements were all wrong and he walked out - 3 fitters later and fill ins everywhere in a small kitchen and now 10 months later paintwork rubbing off unit doors - they are guaranteed for 25 years so the units will be back and forth

given £1000 compensation but kitchen is awful for quality and fit. - i am afraid i was taken in by the showroom but in reality it is one expensive mess.

what really annoys me is that the old kitchen was superior quality to this rubbish - just dark wood which i did not like.

Lena6789 · 30/09/2023 19:46

Dear me, I really wish now that I’ve never bothered with wren, looks like a gift that never stops giving, all in a wrong way

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