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1974 self build, no plans available

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propertypitfalls · 31/05/2023 16:49

We're considering offering on a bungalow but would really like to garner opinions on whether we should just run in the opposite direction.

The bungalow isn't pretty, is made up of 15 hexagons but is on a nice plot with good views and is not overlooked.

Our plan was to open up the living space to make a big living/kitchen/diner, convert the garage to a hall at the front and workroom at the back. We've hit a snag because we can't find plans for it. The build was a self build in 1974 - our Council has shredded everything. It's non-standard (built on a concrete raft) and has 15 conical felt roof sections.

Our problem is that all walls are stud, so probably has steels within it to support the roof (felt) but we can't find out unless we buy it, so it feels like a big risk. Additionally, our builder said if the supports are steel they're probably surrounded by asbestos (most homes from this era are, apparently). We've had a sample of the roof lining sent off for asbestos checking, waiting for the result to come back, but we'd have to factor in asbestos removal.

If we knew how many supports there were it would be easier to make the decision, but without even basic plans it feels like we can't really work out what would be a reasonable offer. We don't need a mortgage (retirement purchase - we downsized last January) and this is the first property that's come up where we've both thought we could happily live there.

Does anyone know if self builders would lodge plans with the conveyancing documents? Or is it possible to 'reverse engineer' and work out the plans that way? Unfortunately the lady who owns the property is elderly and has no idea about the construction, or the plans as they bought it in 1984.

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IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 31/05/2023 23:31

You need a structural engineer and/or architect, rather than a builder. I'm a different type of civil engineer, and work on structures rather than buildings, but the stud walls could easily be based on timber frames.

The foundation raft must be extremely deep and extremely thick not be have been affected by that tree.

Campervangirl · 31/05/2023 23:32

Best house I've seen on here so far, really quirky, I love it.
Got no advice for you but it's fab!

ecuse · 31/05/2023 23:36

I've got no useful advice but I absolutely love it and am a bit jealous. I'm sure it's very impractical and all that but... ❤️

WestOfWestminster · 31/05/2023 23:36

I wouldn't buy it. I think it would be a money pit.

Crazymadchickenlady · 31/05/2023 23:47

I’d go for it. It’s fab. We bought a self build with no plans from 1982 and it’s been fine. We’ve done a lot of building work on it but not found any too nasty surprises. Ours turned out to be timber frame and no asbestos.

bumbledeedum · 01/06/2023 00:38

Is it something that would have made any news articles at the time for its unusual design? If so could you track the build/original architect back through there? Bit of a long shot but being a bit unique there might be an old record of the plans knocking around somewhere maybe?

C4tastrophe · 01/06/2023 06:06

What are the big cracks above some of the windows?

garlictwist · 01/06/2023 07:32

Wow!! What a fabulous house. It's so different and I am actually quite a fan of 70s wood and breeze block.

JandalsAlways · 01/06/2023 07:46

Wow, that looks amazing! 😍

Upsizer · 01/06/2023 08:08

There are some Facebook groups for retro houses - Wowhaus is one - you could post there and ask if anyone has suggestions?

Laughingravy · 01/06/2023 09:00

Hmmm.. Given it's unique you'd think the vendors might have got the answers to these questions sorted before listing.
A small hole in the timber ceiling and a camera will answer a lot of them with little damage. But if there is asbestos in quantity there's a chance the house is worthless and the land as well until it's cleared. If there's asbestos in those roof spaces all that lovely timer ceiling will be firewood. Sorry to sound melodramatic.
If there isn't asbestos I'd say go for it but then I love quirky.

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 01/06/2023 09:21

C4tastrophe · 01/06/2023 06:06

What are the big cracks above some of the windows?

That was my first thought looking at the photos.

Non standard 70s construction, asbestos, not sure the roof is supported.
Id run a mile…

TheOtherHotstepper · 01/06/2023 13:07

Love it. Quirky, fun. Would I? Absolutely not.

Far too many things could go horribly wrong.

QOD · 01/06/2023 13:15

bloody love it!
buy it and then do it up and sell it to me when i retire

Almahart · 01/06/2023 13:19

Looks amazing, but I would want an enormous contingency budget to take it on as a project.

Binningtonianrose · 20/08/2023 08:43

I would go to a couple of local pubs, and find the resident Old Boys who have been drinking there a long time. Local knowledge is a very powerful source, bet you can find someone who knows someone who knows someone..

Failing that, then local Facebook group. Someone on there will know, and 1974 was not that long ago, so many people will remember it.
It's great to find a memorable and unique building like that.

FlamingYam · 20/08/2023 09:08

It's still for sale - reduced even so I'm guessing you didn't go ahead @propertypitfalls ?

PrimalLass · 20/08/2023 14:42

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 31/05/2023 21:59

I love 1970s buildings, it reminds me of the brand new primary school I went to....in 1974.

Was that in Fife? I was just thinking how like my primary school this is. There are seven, I think, like this?

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