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Shared Chimney Stack Troubles

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NotOnEarth · 24/04/2023 15:02

I have a bit of a conundrum. We have a shared chimney stack that is unsafe, crumbling both sides and needs removing or re-building (repointing is no longer a safe option). Bricks have already fallen down from the neighbour’s side and it’s clearly dangerous, there’s no dispute between us that it needs resolving.

The problem is that our neighbour would prefer to fully remove it as this is the cheaper option and they have no use for it in their home. We, on the other hand, have a gas fire that we do use in the winter, which was also a generous housewarming gift from just 4 years ago (along with the marble mantelpiece) from my parents and so we still need the chimney. Neighbours are happy for us to do this but we would cover the whole cost.

My husband is saying that we would need to foot the whole bill for removal and then rebuilding the stack as it is us that want/need it, I think this is how our neighbour also sees it although I haven’t spoke to them personally. Does this sound right? It seems unfair to me that they would get a free chimney repair and 15yr guarantee when both our sides are damaged, although I understand that it is because of our need that the cost is higher. I’m not sure where we would stand legally in this.

Although not particularly close, we get along fine with the neighbours and don’t want to cause any problems with them because of this, if they would need to contribute would it be worth us just paying everything to keep the peace? If we had to pay off the whole cost alone we would struggle, I’m expecting and will be on maternity leave soon so we were trying to save some of the money for the future/emergencies, but we feel like the fireplace adds value to our home, not to mention obviously sentimentally as it was a gift. I’m torn on what to do.

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GasPanic · 24/04/2023 15:16

To me it sounds like two separate jobs, and they should pay half for the first and nothing for the second.

I guess it depends how much the second is likely to impact on their side, for example I assume you would need a party wall agreement to demolish the stack, but would you need another to rebuild the stack on your side ?

Also if the stack is demolished with a view to being rebuilt, that might be more expensive than simple demolition, so that would need to be factored in (IMO anyway).

The fact that it is work being done on the boundary means keeping neighbour relations good is an important consideration, as if your ability to collaborate ends it may be difficult for you to get any more than the minimum work done.

PennyForearm · 24/04/2023 15:20

If you were removing it and not replacing it then they’d have to pay half and have their roof made good etc, so yes of course they should pay toward the removal.

KnickerlessParsons · 24/04/2023 15:28

I'd talk to a chimney expert. It may not be possible to only build half a chimney stack if it's a double chimney further down.

But they should pay half for the removal, and then you pay all the cost of rebuilding. Though I'd make sure somehow that they couldn't subsequently change their minds and use it!

DRS1970 · 24/04/2023 15:31

They should pay half the removal cost. While you pay half the removal cost, and all the rebuilding costs.

Ponderingwindow · 24/04/2023 15:34

you Need to get two estimates. The first to remove it and make the homes whole. The second to rebuild the chimney. Your neighbors should contribute half of the first cost. You pay the difference towards making the second happen.

validnumber · 24/04/2023 15:35

You could always leave your 'gift' in place even if it's not usable. Up I could have a cheap fake chimney breast built on your side too.
I think you should keep it though - a working fireplace is a lovely part of a house.

LunaBlueSkies · 24/04/2023 15:43

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helpfulperson · 24/04/2023 15:45

Do you need a chimney for a gas fire? I would have thought a roof level vent was all that was needed.

NotOnEarth · 24/04/2023 16:06

Wow I didn’t expect so many responses so fast! Thank you all for your advice, I think my neighbours are reasonable people and would be open to at least covering their half of the removal without any bad feelings so that seems like the most amicable solution.

I will discuss with my husband later tonight and update soon. 🙂

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KievLoverTwo · 24/04/2023 16:44

I would get it demolished and made safe with next door paying half, enjoy your fireplace aesthetics without using it for a year or two, then get it rebuilt when maternity leave has ended and full salary has resumed.

That has the added bonus that if they are lying about 'we won't use it', you will suss him out pretty sharpish, because if he has no intentions of using it, he won't object when you say 'we will get it rebuilt in 2-3 years' time.'

C4tastrophe · 24/04/2023 18:08

Obviously as PP’s say, they need to pay half. However if I were them I’d want it removed below the roof and tiled, no capping etc.

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