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Subsidence?

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Smiths2509 · 18/04/2023 15:32

After recently uncovering two under ground sewage pipes cracked and causing rising damp, im now worried my house is showing signs of subsidence? Can some one please help me further thanks so much in advance

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C4tastrophe · 18/04/2023 15:56

Doors get slammed and the frames are subject to forces, so a cracked frame is not a great indicator, unless the door no longer closes?
Same with the window, difficult to tell if there is a lintel of its the window frame holding up the bricks.
Check YouTube. Subsidence is often a vertical crack.

Smiths2509 · 18/04/2023 15:59

The door no longer closes so is unable to get slammed, I just read that stair line cracks which is quite high up so couldn't get a proper picture, the door frame moves on one side and coming away from the wall thank you

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C4tastrophe · 18/04/2023 17:20

I see what you mean outside, but it’s already been repaired previously. Older houses often only have a lintel internally and relied on the widows to hold up the external brickwork.
If it was on the corner of the house, it would be a better indicator.
The door not closing may be because the frame is loose.
Difficult to tell, but from what you have shown it’s not clear it’s subsidence.

Smiths2509 · 18/04/2023 17:24

Fingers crossed it isn't, they didn't tell me to keep an eye on the cracks but already gotten bigger, thank you so much for your reply and advice, really appreciated I thought the same maybe why the door won't close, I was just worried into why the door frame become lose I thought it was the architrave originally. X

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Smiths2509 · 18/04/2023 17:27

My house is a corner out it's kinda hard to take a picture to show what I mean x

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Screwedupworld · 18/04/2023 17:55

The steps above the window are probs to do with when they have been replaced or the lintel. We have loads of houses with this in my local area. Look for cracks near drain pipes uneven door frames (that are fixed), cracks that are more than 3-5 mm width.m. The door frame looks just loose.

Surplus2requirements · 18/04/2023 18:06

Difficult to see on the photos but subsidence cracks are usually wider high up and narrow as they go down. Imagine it as the wall hinging on a point along the foundations.

Some movement isn't usual if walls and/or subsoil have been wet for a considerable period and then dried out relatively quickly or even visa versa for example when trees are removed and stop sucking up water so the broken pipes may have been the cause and there has been some foundation settling since.

Weather extremes also don't help, especially on clay soils without necessary compromising the integrity of the structure.

As said above the internal door frame isn't a reliable indicator.

I'd suggest repairing the external cracks properly, the mortar needs to be fully removed so the repointing is full depth of the bricks rather than filling the surface of the crack and monitor for further movement.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 18/04/2023 18:12

My house has confirmed subsidence, internal cracks started to appear and then doors would no longer be able to be closed. If you're worried, get a surveyor round. They'll be able to let you know if they feel it's subsidence. They may advise you just to leave the cracks to monitor them. I've added the external cracks, caused by the subsidence.

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Smiths2509 · 18/04/2023 19:30

Thank yous so much, we've had the surveyor out and they have said the same about the cracks just watch incase it gets wider around6-8 months, my cracks arnt like that it's the mortar just looks likes it's falling out, doors were unable to close and they plained the archtrive, my downstairs doors are warped but they arnt sure if the damp have caused this issue, my bricks are a terrible state so will need sorting I'm renting this property and the drains have been the same since for at least 5 years which is the root of problems, which caused rising damp but obviously since the walls have been tanked and chemically injected 2 year ago since then the brick work has gotten a lot worse and my interior is damp free but door and frames plaster cracking away from all down stairs frames and the patio doors I have to stand on the trim on the bottom to make them close. The surveyor is a little worried water from the 2 cracked sewage pipes has no place to drain and sitting on foundations. I really appreciate all the advice, x

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