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Planning permission

60 replies

painterp · 25/03/2023 19:03

Neighbours have put in for planning permission for an extension which we have objected against,

We are semi detached and have complained on the basis that the extension will be an overdevelopment for the area, plus other reasons including sunlight into our garden.

The town council has uploaded that they are in support of the application.

Anyone ever had s situation where the town council is in support but the planners turn round and say no?

Just dreading the amount of noise tbh.

OP posts:
fyn · 26/03/2023 10:42

Surely the value of your property will increase as there would be clear precedent for an extension in a conservation area.

LIZS · 26/03/2023 10:51

Op could also contact the Conservation officer as presumably they are also a consultee.

Rainsdropskeepfalling · 26/03/2023 11:12

To the original final question I'm not sure what your council thinks sways more or less weight that other views. For us everyone was fine with our plan (extend to build a bedroom over the single storey attached garage) but planning said filling in the gap wasn't allowed as it was an important gap in the street scene.

Seeline · 26/03/2023 11:17

If it's a rear extension, and your properties aren't listed, it's unlikely that the Conservation Area designation will have much impact unless the extension is easily visible from public viewpoints.
The Conservation Officers comments should be posted on the Council's website on the application page.
It sounds as though they have amended the scheme to meet your previous objections which will make it more likely to be successful.
Have you looked at the policies relating to extensions, development in CAs etc in the Council's Local Plan? Those are what the planners will use to determine the application.

painterp · 26/03/2023 15:11

It's to knock down a garage, knock through a kitchen and build a bedroom on the first floor, and an attic room on the floor above.
We objected on the original proposal that the new proposed ridgeline was higher than the original ridgeline so they have brought it lower. Then it looks like planning have suggested they make it slightly narrower to mean it is more in scale with the rest of the building and to allow a little more light into gardens behind (ours included), and they have done that too.
Comments have now closed on it so no chance to get anyone else to consult on it I think.

Now we just have to wait for the planners report I guess.

OP posts:
pompei8309 · 26/03/2023 16:26

painterp · 25/03/2023 19:34

We didn't mention the value on the objection but it's what we're really worried about.

We did mention the inconvenience but know it's not really included

We mentioned the overdevelopment, light to our garden and also the fact that it doesn't suit the conservation area

We are Really surprised it's being supported by the town council, being that we're in a conservation area.

The neighbours on the other side have also objected by saying they will get blocked in by excess cars, and lack of privacy because it will overlook their garden. Plus overdevelopment and the fact it doesn't suit the area

Just gutted the council have supported it and wondered if anyone had an experience of this where the council supported but planners said no

What a bunch of jealous, miserable neighbours you all are

LIZS · 26/03/2023 17:49

painterp · 26/03/2023 15:11

It's to knock down a garage, knock through a kitchen and build a bedroom on the first floor, and an attic room on the floor above.
We objected on the original proposal that the new proposed ridgeline was higher than the original ridgeline so they have brought it lower. Then it looks like planning have suggested they make it slightly narrower to mean it is more in scale with the rest of the building and to allow a little more light into gardens behind (ours included), and they have done that too.
Comments have now closed on it so no chance to get anyone else to consult on it I think.

Now we just have to wait for the planners report I guess.

You can comment even after the closure date and it should still be taken into account.

BlueMongoose · 26/03/2023 20:15

pompei8309 · 26/03/2023 16:26

What a bunch of jealous, miserable neighbours you all are

Not at all. If people want a bigger house, they should buy a bigger house, if they can't extend without being selfish arseholes.

whatyoulookingfor · 26/03/2023 20:26

GoodChat · 26/03/2023 09:11

The councillor will already have been asked to review the proposal and been invited to share any comments/objections.

Yes but I used to do a councillors admin and unless it was really out of character for the area, or someone tugged his heart strings he wouldn't get involved.

WildAloofRebel · 26/03/2023 20:32

We are a semi detached about to knock down double garage and build kitchen with bedroom and en suite on top. Not your neighbours though as no loft conversion. How is it a problem for you if you’re the attached side? Presumably you’re not attached to their garage.

It will raise the street. We’re one of the last to do the same on our street. You could always just join in and get more space yourself 😉

CellophaneFlower · 27/03/2023 07:17

If your main concern is effect on your house value, I'm not sure moving now is going to help? Potential buyers will know about the work and selling whilst next to a building site might put some off.

Nobody relishes the idea of living with noise and disruption for zero benefit, but that's the chance you take when you have neighbours. If they are otherwise respectful people, you could be living next to far worse.

hotdiggetydog · 27/03/2023 07:52

BlueMongoose · 26/03/2023 20:15

Not at all. If people want a bigger house, they should buy a bigger house, if they can't extend without being selfish arseholes.

How is it selfish though? How does it affect you?

fakery · 27/03/2023 10:16

Please stop replying to the OP.
This post is a reverse and doesn't tell the whole story of a year of scaffolding in our garden and damage to our Listed property in a Conservation Area.

BloaterW1 · 27/03/2023 10:42

So the OP is doing the work and you are the neighbour ?

fakery · 27/03/2023 10:57

Yes! It's been a nightmare!

fakery · 27/03/2023 11:03

They have no back garden and we agreed to them using our back garden for scaffolding and came back from holiday to find a massive scaffold right across the ridge of our old house. They broke tiles, causing a leak which damaged our new kitchen worktops. Still no compensation 5 months later.

rwalker · 27/03/2023 11:07

In if the reasons u give would be upheld

as for values of yours not sure how it would impact you if anything people looking at it would see what the potential is by looking at next doors

fakery · 27/03/2023 11:14

Not really as the new extension looms right over our back garden on the boundary line.
It will cut out all the sun from my veg.

Seeline · 27/03/2023 11:17

@fakery so you are the NDN trying to stop the OPs application?

Is their property listed too?

fakery · 27/03/2023 11:18

It's an l-shaped semi so not side by side and completely different houses.
To be honest it's the nuisance and aspect over our garden- we're not selling so the value has only been mentioned very briefly.
Also the destruction of beautiful old walls.

fakery · 27/03/2023 11:29

We are not trying to stop it- just moderate the impact.

fakery · 27/03/2023 11:33

Their property isn't listed. It was a tiny two bedroom cottage now 4 bedroom following a loft conversion (without planning) with a postage stamp front garden. Very pretty though. They now want another bedroom.

Hiddendoor · 27/03/2023 11:39

I'm confused, is @fakery also the OP?

fakery · 27/03/2023 11:41

No! The op's pretending to be me!

Seeline · 27/03/2023 11:42

Sounds a complicated set-up! What I imagine is the rear wall of the application house is actually the side boundary to your garden?

Where is this additional bedroom going?

Have you seen the Conservation Officer's comments? It sounds like the Listed Building issue will be important. There is a duty to preserve the setting of a LB under the planning legislation.

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