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Unable to pay rent increase

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GoAgainstNicki · 12/03/2023 18:32

I wonder if anyone is able to give some advice on what the next steps will be?

I had an email from the estate agents a couple of weeks ago to say that the Landlord is requesting a rent increase from 1180 to 1500 a month. He wanted this done effective immediately but as my tenancy doesn’t say anything about allowing rent increases, he’ll have to wait until my tenancy is finished this summer.

If I’m unable to pay the rent increase which I totally can’t, what happens next? I already bid for council properties and I know the council won’t help me at all unless I’ve been served with a section 21 notice. Do I just ask the Landlord to start the eviction process and still pay 1180 every month?

The Landlord isn’t open to negotiation at all which is quite silly because it’s probably not worth going to court over just to get an eviction notice but hey, ho! Thanks for any advice given:)

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MrNook · 15/03/2023 22:29

Having multiple children you can't afford to house or support is not a matter of luck.

People's situations change, perhaps she could afford to house and support them previously. Relationship break down/previous eviction/job loss could all mean she ended up homeless and in the shitty situation she's in now.

rainingsnoring · 15/03/2023 22:31

@pompei8309 'Is not taking the piss unless you know how much the landlord mortgage went up by? maybe meetings in the middle doesn’t cover his mortgage. Not sure why people automatically think all landlords are for making profit? you cleared are not one so you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about'

Do you know the landlord's situation? Do you know the going rent for the area?
You are just making assumptions.
If the landlord is a poor business man and has not even considered the fact that interest rates might rise, that is not or at least should not be the OP's problem. There should be no obligation for the OP to pay a 30% increase because the landlord has failed to make sensible provision within his business plan. He also needs to follow the law and not try to impose rent increases before he is legally able to do so.

dollymixtured · 15/03/2023 22:33

MrNook · 15/03/2023 22:29

Having multiple children you can't afford to house or support is not a matter of luck.

People's situations change, perhaps she could afford to house and support them previously. Relationship break down/previous eviction/job loss could all mean she ended up homeless and in the shitty situation she's in now.

She was homeless when pregnant with her first and then had a second in quick succession, your version of events seems unlikely.

rainingsnoring · 15/03/2023 22:35

@dollymixtured 'The landlord agreed to offer a reduced rent when she first took the property and gave a substantial discount, strangely enough the landlord now wants something more like a market rent. OP started another thread about this where she actually says she could afford the increase so it seems odd that less than a month later she has now decided the only course of action is to get evicted. If you are homeless when you have your first child and then proceed to have another child in very short order with no way of supporting yourself or your offspring, then yes I will judge'

How do you know that the landlord has kindly agreed a reduced rent and now wants market rent? Now, perhaps you have studied the OP's posting history carefully in the hope of catching her out. I haven't. I also don't know exactly when she became pregnant in relation to when she was first made homeless. Do you have all these details too?
Regardless of whether or not she has made mistakes (who hasn't made some?) your posts are incredibly unpleasant. I don't understand the need for this at all particularly if you are (as you state) well off and can live wherever you want.

MrNook · 15/03/2023 22:37

She was homeless when pregnant with her first and then had a second in quick succession, your version of events seems unlikely.

Accidents can happen, getting pregnant 3 months after giving birth probably wasn't planned!

I think you're only still on this thread to keep making the OP feel worthless rather than to actually try and add anything helpful

GoAgainstNicki · 15/03/2023 22:37

@dollymixtured my GOD, you really are miserable as fuck aren’t you? You seem like a really great person in real life. Everytime I try to step away from the thread, here you are popping up again with your unnecessary comments. You’ve been here for 3 days just talking shit. Are you not tired?

I searched up your username and you really are rude to people on most of the threads you comment on, you genuinely sound awful. You’ve searched my name and read my previous thread, well done to you. As I have a job, I technically can afford the increase. However after reflecting on it and speaking with the council and Shelter, it doesn’t make sense for me to struggle each month to pay the difference. My best option long term is to get housed via the council as opposed to carry on private renting.

So coming on the thread to say ‘OP said she could afford it a few weeks ago’ isn’t the ‘gotcha’ that you think it is. I advise that you maybe get off your high horse and have a look at why you’re such a mean spirited person. Just a reminder that you don’t know my situation and ANYONE can become a single parent at anytime.

Thank you again to all the supportive comments (there have been many) and thanks to some of the posters who have tried to defend me. Don’t waste your breath any further! Have a great nice night all

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GoAgainstNicki · 15/03/2023 22:42

rainingsnoring · 15/03/2023 22:35

@dollymixtured 'The landlord agreed to offer a reduced rent when she first took the property and gave a substantial discount, strangely enough the landlord now wants something more like a market rent. OP started another thread about this where she actually says she could afford the increase so it seems odd that less than a month later she has now decided the only course of action is to get evicted. If you are homeless when you have your first child and then proceed to have another child in very short order with no way of supporting yourself or your offspring, then yes I will judge'

How do you know that the landlord has kindly agreed a reduced rent and now wants market rent? Now, perhaps you have studied the OP's posting history carefully in the hope of catching her out. I haven't. I also don't know exactly when she became pregnant in relation to when she was first made homeless. Do you have all these details too?
Regardless of whether or not she has made mistakes (who hasn't made some?) your posts are incredibly unpleasant. I don't understand the need for this at all particularly if you are (as you state) well off and can live wherever you want.

Sorry, cross posted so I’ll respond to this now.

The landlord didn’t kindly do anything! When I was homeless, the council negotiated a rent amount for me which was £1180. The landlord then received a discretionary housing payment from the council which was for a deposit as I didn’t pay one. The amount also had a small contribution to cover some of the money that the landlord was missing out on (the standard price was £1340 or £1380, can’t quite remember).

So yes, that poster was trying to catch me out but there’s nothing that I’ve lied about. You can all view my posting history to gain more insight on the situation. This thread alone was asking on the next steps once you let a landlord know that they need to serve you an eviction notice, that’s all

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dollymixtured · 15/03/2023 22:44

OP started two threads almost exactly the same, no searching needed. Her last post summed up her attitude beautifully 'I can afford it but why should I struggle when I can get the taxpayer to foot the bill for me'.

GoAgainstNicki · 15/03/2023 22:50

Omg can I just say, I’ve never EVER seen someone get flamed because they want to get a council property. Never!

@dollymixtured you should be pissed that £1180 of the taxpayers money is going straight to the landlord. Even if he accepts a negotiation of £1346, every single month the taxpayer will be paying that money.

I want to move to a council flat where I can afford my own rent. The fact that you’re pissed at that is literally insane!! Jesus wept. Why would I allow myself to struggle a couple hundred pounds each month when that can go towards my kids?! I want to get out of this situation and put us in a better situation.

I can’t even go back and forth with you anymore😂 you are mad! I could maybe understand if I was claiming benefits with no intention to work, wanting everyone else to pay for my life but that couldn’t be further away from the truth.

Okay, I’m hiding this now because I really will be here all night and I can’t have a decent conversation with a loon. You already have an agenda, believe what you want!

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converseandjeans · 15/03/2023 23:00

@rainingsnoring

Exactly. I don't think some people put two and two together when they moan about having to subside others in society.

Well eventually the rich will have nobody to do their jobs for them. Then they wonder why everyone is on strike!

OP ignore people who are out to get you. You are working & waiting for a council house. Nothing wrong with that!

Jabiru · 15/03/2023 23:15

I’m confused now…OP you either can or can’t find the money for the increase in rent.

I can’t believe you are willing to make yourself homeless when you can actually afford the rent.

I was kinda hoping the council might pay the difference. Presumably they are going to do the maths and tell you that you can afford the rent.

whippedlemons · 15/03/2023 23:36

I was under the hounslow borough.. and in Chiswick they paid me roughly this for my housing allowance.

I also have a child with medical needs.
The council offered me a HA flat in Birmingham, they didn't care, they said there are hospital and health professionals everywhere.

I ended up finding my own HA property up north anyway in a great area but I know the feeling of not wanting to leave London.

If there isn't housing, there isn't! Hence why you got given a private let

user40643 · 16/03/2023 05:53

No sweetheart you are sadly mistaken, I can afford to live where I want, it's you that can't afford to house your family. Luckily for you there are people like me paying in so that you can be funded by, as you put it, the COUNCIL

There's a lack of affordable housing, not the other way around.

user40643 · 16/03/2023 05:54

If you were entitled to the 3 bedroom rate, lived in a 1 bed but the rent was more than the 1 bed rate then yes it would be covered (capped at the price of the 3 bedroom rate).

Where can I find the legislation on this?

C4tastrophe · 16/03/2023 07:29

dollymixtured · 15/03/2023 22:28

Having multiple children you can't afford to house or support is not a matter of luck.

I agree with that. Also, where is the father? I thought they have a responsibility to house their children? CSA should be on him for this.

user40643 · 16/03/2023 07:45

agree with that. Also, where is the father? I thought they have a responsibility to house their children? CSA should be on him for this.

Have you ever seen the great investigative work of CSA? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Greenfairydust · 16/03/2023 08:00

The spite on this thread from some of the posters is unbelievable.

I don't get why so many women would try to knock down a mother who ultimately wants to have a safe home for her family, including a disabled child.

I suggest you target your venom at feckless fathers who don't support their kids financially, are very happy to walk away and leave the mother to pick up the pieces or for successive government who have failed to address the chronic lack of affordable housing in this country.

The smug, ''perfect'' women posting on this thread might be less smug if their partner was to walk out tomorrow and/or if they suddenly lost their job, leaving them to care for their children on their own and on a low income.

Hardship can happen to anyone and the OP really doesn't need the Daily Mail rhetoric.

Whether the OP was right or wrong to have her kids is irrelevant. No one with a shred of decency would want to see these kids suffer and end up homeless.

Twiglets1 · 16/03/2023 08:11

converseandjeans · 15/03/2023 22:10

Oh and this is all for a one bedroom flat btw!

That's a crazy price & we would not be able to afford that much increase on our mortgage. It does sound like the landlord is taking the piss & taxpayers are paying off his mortgage for him.

It must be really stressful for you & I agree with the poster asking where we will find key workers & people who drive buses, clean offices, serve coffees, sweep streets. Are they expected to commute in to do those jobs?

The landlord is not taking the piss - London is a very expensive place to buy or rent a flat so this price is reasonable for the area.
Neither is the OP taking the piss, for the people who seem to think she is. She is just in a certain situation and trying to do the best for her Family.
Personally, I blame the Government for our housing crisis - not the individual landlord or tenant in this situation who haven’t done anything wrong.

C4tastrophe · 16/03/2023 08:54

Twiglets1 · 16/03/2023 08:11

The landlord is not taking the piss - London is a very expensive place to buy or rent a flat so this price is reasonable for the area.
Neither is the OP taking the piss, for the people who seem to think she is. She is just in a certain situation and trying to do the best for her Family.
Personally, I blame the Government for our housing crisis - not the individual landlord or tenant in this situation who haven’t done anything wrong.

If I was the OP, I’d be following the same tactics to be honest.
Family first.

BooseysMom · 16/03/2023 09:26

Fuckitydoodah · 12/03/2023 21:24

Ummm, if anyone is taking the piss here, it's the landlord.

Yep my thoughts exactly. They're not allowed to increase the rent by more than 8% and so he's trying it on

Pangolin23 · 16/03/2023 09:56

BooseysMom · 16/03/2023 09:26

Yep my thoughts exactly. They're not allowed to increase the rent by more than 8% and so he's trying it on

Nonsense, the landlord could increase the rent by 80% if he liked and there would be no law against it!

rainingsnoring · 16/03/2023 10:30

Greenfairydust · 16/03/2023 08:00

The spite on this thread from some of the posters is unbelievable.

I don't get why so many women would try to knock down a mother who ultimately wants to have a safe home for her family, including a disabled child.

I suggest you target your venom at feckless fathers who don't support their kids financially, are very happy to walk away and leave the mother to pick up the pieces or for successive government who have failed to address the chronic lack of affordable housing in this country.

The smug, ''perfect'' women posting on this thread might be less smug if their partner was to walk out tomorrow and/or if they suddenly lost their job, leaving them to care for their children on their own and on a low income.

Hardship can happen to anyone and the OP really doesn't need the Daily Mail rhetoric.

Whether the OP was right or wrong to have her kids is irrelevant. No one with a shred of decency would want to see these kids suffer and end up homeless.

Totally agree again.
The spite directed at the OP is a very poor reflection on the relevant posters, not on her. I find it very sad how society has become like this; small wonder we are in such a mess!

BooseysMom · 16/03/2023 11:49

Pangolin23 · 16/03/2023 09:56

Nonsense, the landlord could increase the rent by 80% if he liked and there would be no law against it!

I stand corrected in that case. This is surely something the government should enforce then.

Twiglets1 · 16/03/2023 11:53

C4tastrophe · 16/03/2023 08:54

If I was the OP, I’d be following the same tactics to be honest.
Family first.

So would I!

SeasonFinale · 16/03/2023 11:57

Boogismyname · 12/03/2023 20:22

That's an obscene price increase! And people wonder why we hate landlords.

Without knowing what property and whether the current deal was given below the market rate noone can say whether this is actually the case.

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