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Which house would you choose?

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CanaHouse · 27/02/2023 20:12

Hi all, name changed for this as probably a touch outing.

Currently trying to decide between 2 houses in a fairly stagnant Canadian market, we are desperate to get out of our very expensive rental but have a limited budget as new residents with minimal Canadian credit history (we’re both English expats, plenty of cash flow but not much borrowing power).
Just the 2 of us but might like a baby in the next year or two.

House A is currently under offer to someone else but we’ve had a heads up that it may fall through due to financing. Offers here are binding once accepted (subject to financing) so once we make a decision we can’t pull out.

House A: 50s detached bungalow, “5 beds” but really a 3 bed with 2 additional basement rooms. Popular area close to good schools (which we don’t need just yet) but a fair walk from town centre.
Pros

  • 2 car driveway
  • large, private rear garden
  • Quiet, family friendly area with good resale potential if we decide to head back home
  • French doors to deck and garden
  • 3 good sized rooms in converted basement with decent headroom (husband will use one as a music room and one as a workshop space)
Cons
  • Original 50s kitchen and all appliances will need to be replaced
  • 1 main floor open plan reception room/kitchen combo, no separate living space.
  • No porch/boot room, front door opens straight into living space. Bear in mind we have long winters here that get to between -20 and -40C!
  • All stair rails, architrave and skirting missing on stairs and in basement
  • 20-30k pricier than House B, realtor thinks it’s overpriced by about 20k but owner very fixed on the price

House B: Edwardian detached 2 story (minimal period features remaining), 3 beds plus office room and finished basement in a good area surrounded by similar properties, easy walk to town and friends. 5-10 mins to primary schools by car.
Pros

  • Good sized enclosed porch/boot room leading to a spacious hallway with good storage
  • Large living/dining room with separate (new) kitchen with good quality appliances (included in purchase price)
  • Possibility of adding a garage and a main floor WC which would improve resale value

Cons

  • No driveway, though has parking spaces at rear of house accessed via an alley (standard in this part of town)
  • Smallish garden, especially once the parking spaces are taken into consideration
  • Small, grotty upstairs bathroom (but located right next to the small office space so potential to expand and create a grand family bathroom in time)
  • Smaller basement with less headroom than house A (fine for me, husband has to duck at the threshold but can stand up once he’s in the room itself). Room is large enough for our purposes and has a small adjoining workspace.

Writing this down my gut feeling is B is the better buy but would love some unbiased opinions.

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Persipan · 28/02/2023 07:25

Am I just not looking in the right place on those listings, or do Canadians not do floor plans?

IndiganDop · 28/02/2023 07:28

House A has a literal prop holding up the basement ceiling and a shitty kitchen with a massive step which toddlers WILL fall down.
It's been nicely styled but it's a no from me.

House B needs the basement space sorting which will be pricey, and that shower with the plastic curtain against the wall looks a nightmare (why not tile??) but it edges ahead, especially if it's more central. As a young couple, being near enough to walk to nights out etc was wonderful for DH and I.

YourUserNameMustBeAtLeast3Characters · 28/02/2023 07:42

B looks amazing from the outside, disappointing on the inside.

Can you rent for longer? I’m serious. My sister moved abroad and bought quite quickly, they made a mistake in what they bought.

How easy is moving? In your position now I’d want to be in walking distance of town now, and then maybe a family area later.

SoCrossAboutThis · 28/02/2023 07:43

I prefer B. No way would I want a house where the kitchen is basically in the living room. House B seems bigger even though less square foot.

SquishyGloopyBum · 28/02/2023 07:44

House B is far nicer.

I'd be very worried about the prop holding up the basement?

Plus the layout for A is bad- the living area seems small and like you say, no porch/boot room.

CobraChicken · 28/02/2023 07:52

IndiganDop: "House A has a literal prop holding up the basement ceiling"

😆 That's actually totally normal over here. They're permanent and just not usually still visible when a basement is fully finished, having been boxed in and hidden.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 28/02/2023 07:57

If you have the funds and local planning allows you could easily add on an external front porch to house A. Assuming the basement prop is not an issue as pp says - I like A better.
You could also enclose the raised deck area to add to insulating properties and add a boot room type space.

DibbleDooDah · 28/02/2023 07:59

I love this one. Needs work but location great and real potential. Has parking, porch and basement. The loft space could be made into a lovely master en-suite and an unfinished basement- the world’s your oyster. It has a lovely flow to it In its current state. Plus it has lots of Union Jacks in it….

www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25276393/923-alder-avenue-moose-jaw-hillcrest-mj

Would be a house that could really grow with you. Put in a new kitchen and do cosmetic stuff when you first move in. Then do the other bits as you have the money.

DibbleDooDah · 28/02/2023 12:01

DibbleDooDah · 28/02/2023 07:59

I love this one. Needs work but location great and real potential. Has parking, porch and basement. The loft space could be made into a lovely master en-suite and an unfinished basement- the world’s your oyster. It has a lovely flow to it In its current state. Plus it has lots of Union Jacks in it….

www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25276393/923-alder-avenue-moose-jaw-hillcrest-mj

Would be a house that could really grow with you. Put in a new kitchen and do cosmetic stuff when you first move in. Then do the other bits as you have the money.

Oh, and here’s one all “done” on the same road with a very similar layout. Massive price difference.

www.realtor.ca/real-estate/24986613/910-alder-avenue-moose-jaw-hillcrest-mj

user1492757084 · 28/02/2023 13:34

House A.
The laundry seems a good size.
Could it accommodate a boot wall?
Could some of garage become boot area?

CanaHouse · 28/02/2023 14:56

We loved the house on Alder too @DibbleDooDah but in person it had structural issues that would cost some serious money to correct.
CobraChicken is correct that the props are normal here and nothing to worry about, they are alarming to the British eye though I’ll admit!

Re the garden of house B if you look at the picture facing the back of the house you’ll see tire tracks to the left in the snow, that is the parking and takes up a huge amount of garden.

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CanaHouse · 28/02/2023 15:01

Oh and floor plans not being a thing? Correct. It’s absolutely infuriating. Square footage is often meaningless too, many agents only show ground floor size or don’t include habitable basement rooms. House 2 has about twice the square footage listed.

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DibbleDooDah · 28/02/2023 19:40

@CanaHouse I would get some proper quotes on fixing the structural stuff before totally discounting. Works can seem extremely daunting if you’ve never done it before but it is a fab way to get the house you want. So long as you have the cash to get it safe and liveable, the rest can come.

FoofOfTheWalkingDead · 28/02/2023 21:15

I prefer House A but I'm biased because I grew up in a similar style bungalow (Calgary). I think that House A has more potential for being a long-term home. You can eventually build a porch on the front but if you park in the garage during the winter you'll likely end up coming in through the back door most of the time. If you have children the garden will really come into it's own. A guard rail in the kitchen is an easy fix, as are adding the architraves and skirting. If the market is stagnant, as you say, hopefully the owners will knock 20k off for a sale.

My friend lived in a similar era home to House B in Medicine Hat and it was a very cold nightmare in the winter. I would check the quality of the insulation in that one! Plus, they've completely removed any of the original features which would have made it charming. The Alder St property that a PP linked to has great potential because it still has original features but the basement looks like it might have issues with water ingress.

CanaHouse · 28/02/2023 22:07

Husband (a tradesman) is very anti the Alder Ave house, the porch is separating from the front, the back of the house is slumping and the basement had cracks/lifting concrete. I had a job to get him through the front door, there’s zero chance he’ll agree to buy it!
Second viewing on B tomorrow, will pay attention to temps and insulation and how viable it would be to replace some features and put character back. Will get a House A sales update whilst I’m with the realtor

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DibbleDooDah · 01/03/2023 06:42

That figures on the Alder Avenue house. I guess it’s reflected in the price. I would honestly wait it out a bit longer. Right now House A isn’t available and House B feels like you are settling.

BTMadmummy · 01/03/2023 06:55

House B for me

QOD · 01/03/2023 07:10

A because you can lose some area incorporating that cupboard into a tiny inner porch even if you can’t add an outer one

TheIsleOfTheLost · 01/03/2023 09:14

B purely because of the amazing rotary wall phone on picture 16!

On a more serious note, the living space in A looks very small, particularly the kitchen. I would fall off that platform, never mind a toddler. Would you end up using a bedroom another lounge and the it essentially becomes a 2 bed?

SunsetOverEasterIsland · 01/03/2023 09:34

Love house A and the parking would swing it for us. If your OH is a tradesman then I'm sure a porch at the front wouldn't be too difficult. Have any houses on that road added a porch?The drop in the kitchen easily sorted. Lovely house.
Happy house move wherever you end up 😁

Totalwasteofpaper · 01/03/2023 09:41

House B is the best of the two.
And i can see the potential.

A looks a money pit and you'll need to do a tonne of childproofing if you do have kids!!!

Is there any way you can put parking in the front of B?

Agree B is settling a bit....

Cornelious2011 · 01/03/2023 09:51

Both lovely but house B for me.

boobot1 · 01/03/2023 09:54

B hands down, no competition.

CobraChicken · 04/03/2023 22:51

Any updates @CanaHouse ?

CanaHouse · 04/03/2023 23:41

We’ve taken the leap and had an offer accepted on House B!
House As original buyer supposedly still hasn’t secured financing but the seller seemed happy to wait whilst we were keen to get moving.

Second viewing on B really helped us to see where we could put back character and how we could best utilise the space and we both walked out keen to get in it and start making it ours so I’m feeling comfortable with our decision.
Now to navigate the vagaries of a foreign mortgage system!

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