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Can’t wait for the big crash

281 replies

HPcrashingdown · 26/02/2023 17:38

I can’t wait for prices to come back down. It’s absolutely ridiculous how mental prices have gone. I will be just waiting with my hefty deposit ready to buy my forever home. It will be great.

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HPcrashingdown · 01/03/2023 23:13

I saw an article yesterday about how stagnation is far worse for us all than a crash. They think this is what’s going to happen. You’ll all be wishing I was right if that happens.

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Furries · 02/03/2023 01:06

HPcrashingdown · 01/03/2023 23:13

I saw an article yesterday about how stagnation is far worse for us all than a crash. They think this is what’s going to happen. You’ll all be wishing I was right if that happens.

As a pp said, keep building up those pennies for your big deposit.

If you’re in a position to do so, you need to make the leap at some point. Pop back in a year or so and let us know how great things have been for you.

deadhighbungalow · 04/03/2023 00:28

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MintJulia · 04/03/2023 02:01

OP, I've owned my home since 1987. The talk of a house price crash has been pretty constant for all of the intervening time.

The only significant price reduction was in 2008/9 and it took a global financial crisis to bring that about. Prices were back to pre-crash levels within 18 months. Most people just sat it out, and fewer properties changed hands.

Short of a third world war, I think you will be waiting a long time. 🙂

Furries · 04/03/2023 02:12

@deadhighbungalow - rubbish name change 🤣🤣

Furries · 04/03/2023 02:14

I mean, the name change was obvious already. But your daft font changes also give you away.

Don’t be shy, just own who you are and what your style/purpose is on these threads.

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/03/2023 05:56

Well houses are still selling fast in my area, particularly the expensive ones. One went up for £1.7 million yesterday and sold the same day.

Railwayroad · 04/03/2023 06:29

Everything that’s wrong with the world in that OP

WednesdaysPlaits · 04/03/2023 07:30

My friend bought her house for £610k twelve years ago. They’ve spent about £50k on it sorting kitchen and bathrooms. They put it on the market on Monday for £1.2m and sold it yesterday for full asking price. This is in a Northern city.

Enjoy the wait OP.

PriamFarrl · 04/03/2023 07:43

Furries · 04/03/2023 02:14

I mean, the name change was obvious already. But your daft font changes also give you away.

Don’t be shy, just own who you are and what your style/purpose is on these threads.

The font change is due to the poster using an incorrect symbol as an apostrophe, not some clever dickery.

C4tastrophe · 04/03/2023 08:04

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/03/2023 05:56

Well houses are still selling fast in my area, particularly the expensive ones. One went up for £1.7 million yesterday and sold the same day.

Post the RM link.

C4tastrophe · 04/03/2023 08:05

WednesdaysPlaits · 04/03/2023 07:30

My friend bought her house for £610k twelve years ago. They’ve spent about £50k on it sorting kitchen and bathrooms. They put it on the market on Monday for £1.2m and sold it yesterday for full asking price. This is in a Northern city.

Enjoy the wait OP.

Post the RM link.

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/03/2023 08:07

Link

@C4tastrophe there you go.

Meandfour · 04/03/2023 08:10

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/03/2023 08:07

Link

@C4tastrophe there you go.

Beautiful home!

happy now @C4tastrophe 😂

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/03/2023 08:16

Here are a couple more @C4tastrophe that sold in a day

Another quick sale

And this one

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/03/2023 08:21

@C4tastrophe this is the one that I really loved but, again, it sold very quickly a few weeks ago. Was hoping that the heat would be taken out of the market and would go back to 2020/21 prices but it’s not to be. Having to come to terms with the fact that we won’t be moving up the ladder any further. First World problems I know!

The one

happinessischocolate · 04/03/2023 08:27

WednesdaysPlaits · 04/03/2023 07:30

My friend bought her house for £610k twelve years ago. They’ve spent about £50k on it sorting kitchen and bathrooms. They put it on the market on Monday for £1.2m and sold it yesterday for full asking price. This is in a Northern city.

Enjoy the wait OP.

The bottom of the market will drop first, not the million pound houses, their owners aren't struggling with the energy bills and food prices.

I have a budget of £250k and an alert on "on the market" - every day at least 5 properties are dropping in price. They're 3 bed flats and 2 bed terrace houses, and they're not selling. A year ago there were no houses at all in this price bracket, now there's loads.

10 years ago a landlord friend bought a 3 bed house for £190k it sold 6 years later for £262k, an identical one a few doors up has just sold for £200k.

Also there's a lot of empty properties on the market which would indicate landlords are selling up.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/03/2023 08:29

Theres a lot of new developments going up near me, if there’s a crash coming the big building companies like Redrow know nothing about it.

Which is odd when you think selling houses is what they do for a living. It’s like a supermarket not knowing how many carrots they sold.

Tekkentime · 04/03/2023 08:33

Things aren't looking great, I agree, but if people like their homes then being in negative equity will be ok. Unless they lose their jobs or the price of staple items keep going up.
There's nothing people can do now anyway and there will be many in the same boat.

happinessischocolate · 04/03/2023 08:52

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/03/2023 08:29

Theres a lot of new developments going up near me, if there’s a crash coming the big building companies like Redrow know nothing about it.

Which is odd when you think selling houses is what they do for a living. It’s like a supermarket not knowing how many carrots they sold.

Yep because construction firms always know which way the market is going....

Can’t wait for the big crash
donttellmehesalive · 04/03/2023 08:55

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/03/2023 08:29

Theres a lot of new developments going up near me, if there’s a crash coming the big building companies like Redrow know nothing about it.

Which is odd when you think selling houses is what they do for a living. It’s like a supermarket not knowing how many carrots they sold.

They do. Pretty much all of them have posted profit warnings in the past month.

Forfrigz · 04/03/2023 08:59

There are positives and negativs to a crash no matter who.you are but those insisting that houseprices stay overinflated are delusional, it's crippling society and they need to come down.

Riverlee · 04/03/2023 09:11

My dc could have waited for ‘the crash’. However, bought a flat last year and got a fixed rate of 1.7% approx. For five years. First time buyer rates a year later are now 5%. So rather than sinking his money into rent, he’s paying a mortgage at a good rate. Yes, his flat may fall in value, but had he been renting, he would have lost that money anyway.

RedToothBrush · 04/03/2023 09:22

Stagnation is the most likely scenario. There was dip then slow recovery where I lived. It meant the house we bought in 2007 sold in 2019 for what we paid.

This isn't great. When prices started going back up, even though we'd overpaid the mortgage we were competing against people who, over the same period, had large inheritances or had but equity gains in the rest of the country. The area has seen a massive influx of people moving up from London and the home counties.

I laid down the figures for what you needed to be earning on that basis, to buy the stock of housing the local planners were approving, to the local parish council so they could see how it was driving out people who had grown up in the area. You could just about get onto the market but moving up was now the problem.

And this is the problem going forward that people aren't wrapping their heads around, if we face stagnation.

I keep saying it: the top of the market will flag first but land prices mean they can only fall so far. People in the very largest properties will face slow sales and certainly won't gain much if any equity.

The trend, with rising cost of living, will continue for some time for older people who are cash rich to want to downsize. These people, provided they can sell or get a tenant for their current property, will always out compete those who can only buy with a mortgage. Plus there will be a tightening of mortgage approvals. It means that there won't be a negative equity trap, but there will be a trap whereby you can't move up the ladder once you've bought. That means young couples starting families are going to get caught in properties much smaller than previous generations because the middle of the market will have such demands on it - which will keep property prices artificially higher than they should be. This has been made much worst because of years of planning decisions and developer decisions which either went for FTB properties or large executive homes to the neglect of building the mid market properties.

I don't think prices will drop too much at the bottom end of the market either. What will drop will be the affordability. But demand for homes won't drop meaning someone will always buy them. People need somewhere to live. Households are getting smaller whilst the population increases. Again cash is king.

It means that renting will continue to become more common as young people can't enter the market, and it's older generations who will continue to capitalise on this. And increasingly stepping up the ladder will be the preserve of those recieving inheritance.

Something has to break in this - tenant rights need urgent looking at and it seems inevitable that at some point inheritance laws will change as soon as we hit a demographic tipping point which allows politicians to do it.

All in all, it won't be easier if you are under 45 even if the market stagnants or crashes. And an increase in the market is even worse.

The market is broken. No scenario improves the situation.