Another how old is this house thread?

[HouseHistoryHunter]

Shamelessly copying another thread, I’ve been trying to find out the history of this house that DH’s parents owned and we’re now renovating. Looking at it I thought it was late Victorian/ early Edwardian/ Arts and Crafts- but following a fantastic tip on another thread something seems to have been on the site in 1852. I just wonder if that was the same property.

No paper deeds given on transfer, I think the bank have misplaced them, so nothing forthcoming and I’ve been useless with finding info on Ancestry etc. I wonder if the house name has changed over the years..

It’s in East Yorkshire, so guessing not at the cutting edge of architectural innovation at the time, but what do I know?

I’ve no idea I’m afraid but bumping it for you.
It’s lovely whatever the age! Does the inside have as much character as the outside? I live in a 70’s house which lacks charm so very envious.

1908?

Tudor revival style? Maybe 1880s?

Don't know what tips you have already had. I found out the age of our house by using findmypast (you can get a free trial). You can search censuses by street. You can also use the newspaper section there. Search your street address and house name if you know it. People used to advertise widely in local press for servants etc.

1900s

First thought was Edwardian when I saw the pictures, but I'm not an expert. Some lovely features! Can you tell us more about it?

I suggest that you pop down to your local history centre, because staff can be very helpful. It might be at your central or local library.

Thanks so much for the comments! There's so much conflicting commentary - the local area conservation statement suggests it's late 18th century, another local architecture says it's Edwardian, then another says mid Victorian.

Inside there's a big hall, encaustic tiles, very deep cornices and skirting boards, but the fireplaces are not enormous.

I suppose the specific era doesn't matter- but Im just really nosy and want all the details!

No idea but absolutely gorgeous!

It’s quite symmetrical and tidy so it giving me arts and crafts Queen Anne vibes

Try looking up planning applications at that address in your local council. Sometimes you can find interesting applications which also include drawings.

Also, when it was built there would have been a planning application to build it so if the council has not kept things that far back, ask if they have an archive somewhere. If they do you can see the original hand drawn plan, date and architect.

Look up Kelly’s directory going back and back to see who lived there, their profession, and the date.

Is there a Facebook group for that area or street? People may be sharing old photos.

What a lovely house.

Record office

History guide fir property

Also find the oldest maps the most detailed one which is 25 ins to
one mile. See if it is on the earliest or when it appears.

You can see them free on line with a title something like historic ordinance survey maps.

Also, when it was built there would have been a planning application

planning starts around 1880s so it’ll depend on when it’s built as to whether the application are available. Added to which whether they survive fir that area and whether they’ve been deposited with the record office

Are you on any site that gives newspaper archives? It would be free at the Library. Put in the address and see if obituaries, come up or other news which includes it.

Using maps is difficult to prove whether it was a rebuild, it’ll show an outline

OS maps do have stuff before 1880s edition but it’s patchy, you’d be searching for estate maps or tithe if they had them done - not everywhere had tithe maps

The inside sounds a lot like edwardian but I've had a couple of early edwardian and none had mock tudor so I assume older than mine but the style as in the physical building from the photos looks really similar to my current house. We got info from photos at our local town archive

Where I am I know they have plans from about 1876, I am not sure about earlier. Maybe there are other archives for architectural plan drawings before the planning system began.

But even if your house is too early for the original plan to be with the council, you see in successive plans how people added things all the time - planning seems to have be strict enough that it was required when changes or additions were made. Do you could still get it turning up in planning.

Can you provide photos of some of the fireplaces as that might help. I think its edwardian.

@ScrollingLeaves Planning was strict enough to require permission for every single pig sty and there were many 😂 as families liked to rear pigs in the back yard

I would guess 1900-1905, the arts and crafts style porch is wonderful. As someone else said, could you post pics of the fireplaces?

Whereabouts East Yorkshire? that could help with identification. Hessle? Beverley? I'd say Edwardian. Just you could google the actual local history of the town itself.

Looks Edwardian to me.

The site for old OS maps is the National Library of Scotland (they don't just have Scottish maps.) maps.nls.uk/os/ As pp said, the fact there was a house on the site at an earlier date doesn't mean it was the same house. A 25 inch map, if there is one, will show the footprint of the house, which might give you an idea.

Agree Edwardian/arts and crafts. If you look up Dragon view in Harrogate looks similar to that. Would love to see any original features from inside.

Ordnance Survey Maps 25 inch England and Wales, 1841-1952 - National Library of Scotland

maps.nls.uk/os/25inch-england-and-wales/