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Bailiffs evicting tenant next week

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Tricolette · 08/01/2023 06:54

Next week our tenant who has not paid 6 months rent and is subletting a room in our property will finally be evicted.
We think he will probably not clear out his belongings on time.
Also we are expecting, hopefully wrong, that there may be some damage to the property.

As we will need an address to give notice to remove his stuff and also want to pursue him for court costs etc does anyone know how we can find an address for him once he's gone?

Any advice welcome. Thanks

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Minimalme · 08/01/2023 17:42

I don't think you can unless they go onto the electoral roll somewhere?

If someone hasn't paid their rent in 6 months I think your chance of getting any money back is slim.

If you are going to look for a new tenant, make sure you take out insurance that pays out in this situation.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 08/01/2023 17:43

Do you know where he works?

Tricolette · 08/01/2023 19:24

I knew where he worked, not sure if he's still there.
@Minimalme yes. We were naive.

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Tricolette · 08/01/2023 19:25

Tbf he was fine for 3 years until his dp left.

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 08/01/2023 19:29

His work shouldn't give out his current address unless he consents to it, but you could send correspondence to his last known place of work. He may deny receiving it though.

SuperQuickDraw · 08/01/2023 19:32

If you use a debt collector they can access the gone away information network, which will have his address if he has a bank account or credit card and updates it. Not sure whether they can share that info with you though.

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 08/01/2023 19:37

We had a bailiff at our house looking for the last tennants who apparently owed money for something or other and at the time they came we had lived here 4 years, the property was empty 2-3 months before we moved as the tennants before only stayed 6 months and it was the one before that so it took them nearly 5 years of chasing - could be anywhere by now!!

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 08/01/2023 19:37

Sorry should say "previous" tennant not last

ThreeFeetTall · 08/01/2023 23:18

Is the sub tenant still there? Do they know anything about the eviction?

GladysPew · 08/01/2023 23:48

Take a look at www.landlordzone. Lots of information on there from very knowledgeable and helpful Members. If you post your query on there you will be given the correct info.
FWIW I would pursue the debt, you might not get any money back but the Tenant might at least have a CCJ against them.
Check the Tenancy Agreement, it may well include details of how and where Notices should be sent.
Any Notices can be sent via Royal Mail post. Keep proof of postage. That is sufficient evidence that it was sent. Don't ever send Notices requiring a signature as Tenant may well refuse to sign for it.
Well Done for getting this far, sounds like you will soon have possession of your property.
Hope this helps

GladysPew · 08/01/2023 23:52

Doesn't matter if "sub Tenant" is there or not. Bailiffs Notice will include " any other persons" or words to that effect. They will also be removed and the Landlord will have legal possession and may (should) change the locks.

earsup · 09/01/2023 00:01

I think you have to return to court to recover debts, our tenants caused damage 8k...never got a penny....insurance didnt cover malicious damage, at least our rent insurance paid out and covered all eviction costs.

ThreeFeetTall · 09/01/2023 00:13

GladysPew · 08/01/2023 23:52

Doesn't matter if "sub Tenant" is there or not. Bailiffs Notice will include " any other persons" or words to that effect. They will also be removed and the Landlord will have legal possession and may (should) change the locks.

No it doesn't matter legally, you should still get possession, but from a practical point of view it is much more difficult for the bailiff to conduct an eviction if someone is sitting on the sofa eating their lunch compared to someone who is ready to go and packed etc. and easier for the landlord if they have already moved their stuff out

Tricolette · 09/01/2023 16:43

Thanks for all the advice.
The ndn rang me today to say there's definite signs of the tenant packing up although I think we will be left with bags of rubbish which are sitting on the front.
I don't think we'll get any money from him but we'll definitely take steps to enforce a ccj.
I just tell myself that at least I've not been paying the council tax and energy bill so that's something.

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WulyJmpr · 09/01/2023 20:47

And this is why landlords want to keep section 21.

ThreeFeetTall · 09/01/2023 21:44

Without section 21 landlord can still evict under fault based ground. Easy to prove non payment of rent.

GladysPew · 10/01/2023 07:01

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 08/01/2023 19:37

We had a bailiff at our house looking for the last tennants who apparently owed money for something or other and at the time they came we had lived here 4 years, the property was empty 2-3 months before we moved as the tennants before only stayed 6 months and it was the one before that so it took them nearly 5 years of chasing - could be anywhere by now!!

Claimant has 6 years to recover the debt. Bailiff will not have been looking for 5 years.

Tricolette · 10/01/2023 17:02

Hi everyone

The bailiff arrived and was really good. Talked calmly to our tenant.
The locksmith changed all of our locks, not had that bill yet!
The tenant didn't want to give us the garage key so I had that lock changed too.

The house is still full of belongings.
I know I have to take care of them but can i move them to a different place in the house?

The son who looks about 13 was crying, he should have been at school, who puts a dc through that.

The house smells awful, I assume weed.
The kitchen cupboard doors are wrecked.
The agent said a deep clean and a coat of white paint it will be fine.
I don't agree. I wouldn't live in it without a serious revamp.

I've messaged our insurance company but I'm not expecting any help.

Onward and upward.

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CasperGutman · 11/01/2023 13:31

Glad he left.

To be fair, as the current occupants have been in place for at least three-and-a-half years then you'd expect some cosmetic updating to be needed. Repainting should probably be taken on the chin as reasonable wear and tear. Wrecking the cupboard doors is a shame, though you may find replacement doors can be had for less than you think if the units are otherwise okay.

GladysPew · 11/01/2023 18:44

Poor Kid. No sympathy for the Tenant.

Tricolette · 15/01/2023 10:28

CasperGutman · 11/01/2023 13:31

Glad he left.

To be fair, as the current occupants have been in place for at least three-and-a-half years then you'd expect some cosmetic updating to be needed. Repainting should probably be taken on the chin as reasonable wear and tear. Wrecking the cupboard doors is a shame, though you may find replacement doors can be had for less than you think if the units are otherwise okay.

I was always going to revamp the bathroom tbf.
Yes I think the kitchen may just need replacement doors.
It's the smell that will take ages to get rid of.

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