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Any structural engineers about?

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Worriedslope · 21/12/2022 18:12

We have just bought a new house after a long search. I wasn’t 100% sure about the house, husband persuaded me to put an offer in which was accepted.

Anyway, the house was built in 1960s/ 1970s. Sometime not long after this, an extension was built. It is built on a hillside.

When we viewed the property, I noticed that floor did not feel even in the upstairs hallway which was part of the extension. It was noticeably sloping and the bedroom and bathroom in that part of the house didn’t feel ‘right’ underfoot. I also noticed that the bathroom door was kept open by a stone.

We commissioned a surveyor to do a Home Buyers survey. We had initially asked him to do a structural survey but he said he’d do a home buyers first and then advise if that was necessary. I’m actually not sure if he does structural surveys?

Anyway the report came back stating that the house was structurally sound/ solid. It mentions that floor is ‘levelish’, but obviously nothing major was noted. I found the report reassuring as I thought obviously if I had noticed the sloping surely they would have mentioned it in the report. I still find it strange it wasn’t specifically mentioned as it is very obvious. I’m also annoyed because we specifically asked him about this and he didn’t respond, now kicking myself for not pushing more.

Since getting the keys, I’ve become extremely worried about this. We’ve been able to have a look ourselves with a spirit level and the floor and window sills in the small bedroom are sloping. To spirit level we used is (I think either 60cm or 80cm), and to bring it to level you need to pick it up and 1-2cm.

We have a friend who is in the trade and he thinks it is settlement from when the extension was first done. Which is good in that it means it’s hopefully not subsidence, but still leaves us with this issue of the sloping floors. The door frames look skeewiff too. The door in the bathroom was being held open with a stone because otherwise it slides shut. I’ve also just noticed this evening that another door upstairs is difficult to close. It’s along the same line as the sloping, although the spirit level seemed ok there so not sure if just crappy door (the whole place is rather shabby).

BTW the first floor part of this extension feels a bit sloppy too but not to the same extent as the first floor.

I’m really hoping someone might be able to provide me with some reassurance. Can we just level the floor? I have barely slept a wink and am so stressed. Please be kind, I am struggling.

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Worriedslope · 22/12/2022 13:34

Argh I was feeling better and now feeling shit again. I’ve looked at our insurance and it doesn’t cover subsidence due to settlement. It does cover subsidence and heave. However it does say that it doesn’t cover foundations which did not meet building regulations at the time of construction. I have no idea what the building regulations would have been when the extension was built. I’m really annoyed the vendors didn’t declare anything about it either. I can remember signing the document about not know of any further issues when we sold our house.

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BlueMongoose · 22/12/2022 16:29

I found some cracks after we bought a previous house. I got the original surveyor back and we looked at all of them and he reassured me they were not structural, and explained why and how to tell*. Nothing further cracked in over 30 years there, so I think he was right.
*plaster not properly adhered to breeze-block type interior walls due to it not being widely known in the 60s how to get plaster to stick to that sort of block- it needed more wetting than was thought at the time.

TizerorFizz · 22/12/2022 16:42

@Worriedslope
You don’t need a Fellow. I was just making the point that there is a hierarchy of status. You probably won’t find one! A bit like hens teeth! As long as your engineer has a track record in domestic property/smaller building issues, you will be fine. It’s just that engineers working on massive projects are not really going to be what you need.

Worriedslope · 22/12/2022 16:55

@TizerorFizz thanks, yes the man I have coming around is a structural engineer with a focus on residential. I can find him on the website though. It’s a bit awkward to ask as he’s one of my new neighbours! I just still feel sick about it 😥

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TizerorFizz · 22/12/2022 17:05

@Worriedslope
Just read your update. It’s a very very fine dividing line between settlement damage and subsidence! Don’t be fibbed off with crumb told it’s settlement snd that’s a minor issue. It’s not. How is the extension acting in the soil conditions is the key question ? What is it doing when compared to the older building? It’s been up for years, so might well predate building regs requirements. It may not. So ….. this is why you need a structural engineer batting for you. If they find an issue of course. Insurance companies try and wriggle out of paying. A structural engineer will advocate you. Do not let an unqualified loss adjuster appointed from the insurance company override the SEng.

Differential settlement refers to the issues the building has regarding its load being supported by the foundations in the soil. The attached is a useful summary.

Any structural engineers about?
Any structural engineers about?
Any structural engineers about?
TizerorFizz · 22/12/2022 17:05

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