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Installing gas hob into a kitchen without existing gas pipe

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Qqbank01 · 30/11/2022 15:54

Currently I have an electric ceramic hob in my kitchen, and I want to change it to gas hob, but the gas meter is outside of kitchen (under the stair), it will need to break through the wall/cupboard and install gas pipe into it.
Did gas engineer help to do pipe/hob install only? or I need to find a builder to open the hole from wall/cupboard before install?

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user374698 · 30/11/2022 16:03

I would think the gas engineer would do it because when you have a boiler fitted pipes and stuff have to go through walls and the gas man did that on ours

parietal · 30/11/2022 21:39

get an induction hob instead. much much better.

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Qqbank01 · 30/11/2022 22:57

user374698 · 30/11/2022 16:03

I would think the gas engineer would do it because when you have a boiler fitted pipes and stuff have to go through walls and the gas man did that on ours

I am not sure if the gas engineer will open the hole on wall/cupboard or not because i have no one to ask (maybe some chain stores like curry can ask question about install?)

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Whatevergetsyouthroughthenight · 30/11/2022 23:04

Another vote for an induction hob. As controllable as gas and easier to clean. I’ve had gas and wouldn’t go back now I have an induction job.

If you are really set on gas, if it’s just a single hole then I expect that the gas engineer will do it for you. Presumably you are having to get someone in, so can’t why can’t you just ask?

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Qqbank01 · 30/11/2022 23:08

parietal · 30/11/2022 21:39

get an induction hob instead. much much better.

I am considering gas hob because of energy price since I am using hob to cook everyday. Also my rented house was gas hob which is really good for me.

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userxx · 30/11/2022 23:13

parietal · 30/11/2022 21:39

get an induction hob instead. much much better.

God yes, I'd happily swap my gas hob for induction. Absolute fucker to keep clean, I hate it.

Stripedbag101 · 30/11/2022 23:26

I love my gas hob!

I would speak to a good build about this - some are gas certified, others will know a gas person to come and inspect the work and give a certificate

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Qqbank01 · 30/11/2022 23:36

Adding photo for position of gas meter and bob

Installing gas hob into a kitchen without existing gas pipe
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user374698 · 01/12/2022 05:51

Chain stores like Currys only do a basic install, the pipes have to be already there, they don't do pipe installation. We had a gas cooker and wanted to change to electric, all the gas pipes and electric were already there but the only store that would disconnect a gas cooker, cap it off and install an electric one was AO.com. Mostly they only do very basic disconnection and connection, like for like.

I would probably get a couple of quotes from gas engineers for the job, then they can see it and will tell you what they will do and if any other contractor will be needed. Also there are a lot of regulations nowadays around siting of gas hobs and cookers, so a gas engineer would be able to advise that the position of your gas hob will be OK.

I see your gas meter is under the stairs like ours and the gas pipes need to come through the wall to the kitchen, ours is like that and the pipe comes through the wall, the hole isn't that big so shouldn't be too big a job.

CheapWine · 01/12/2022 05:57

You want a decent Safe Gas heating engineer, they will run the pipe and got the appliance for you.

I am with you on the gas hob OP, there’s a reason they are in professional kitchens.

CheapWine · 01/12/2022 05:58

*fit the appliance.

they will probably get it for you too if you give them the model number and assess it’s suitability for the space.

user374698 · 01/12/2022 06:15

I prefer gas hobs but we changed to electric because since we had our last gas cooker a lot of the regulations and recommendations had been been changed and it would have been difficult to have gas in the position we wanted.

One good thing I have noticed using electric though is that condensation is much less because gas releases water as it burns so can make condensation worse, so there are pros and cons with both

dazzlingdeborahrose · 01/12/2022 06:20

Gas all the way here. Can still cook, make tea and coffee when there's yet another bloody power cut 🙄. No special pans needed either
That wasn't the question though 😂. Your gas engineer will probably sort the pipe work I would think.

Roselilly36 · 01/12/2022 06:21

Get a plumber in to give you a quote, it’s hard to say how easy it will be to get done, but if you want a gas hob, it will be possible I expect.

We have induction now, after gas in our last home, wouldn’t go back to gas, induction is brilliant and so easy to clean.

Worth considering if the cost of the gas pipe is more expensive or not as easy as you hoped. Good luck.

NellyBarney · 01/12/2022 07:39

The gas engineer/plumber will definitely be able to cut holes for pipework but they usually don't make good, so you might need a plasterer/tiler afterwards, depending where exactly the pipes go through. It's the making good of any cosmetic damage that can add quite significantly to costs, so I definitely would go with induction if your kitchen is already instalked/splashback tiled and you are happy with how it all looks.

AltheaVestr1t · 01/12/2022 07:49

The gas engineer will be able to make holes and run the pipe for you, you don't need a separate builder to make the holes.

Skiphopbump · 01/12/2022 07:56

Have you had a look to see if there is already a pipe? I had my kitchen redone this year and was surprised to see a gas pipe in place as o had an electric hob.

Rocksludge · 01/12/2022 07:57

Getting an induction hob and running it on electricity is likely be the more cost effective option over messing about with gas supply.

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Qqbank01 · 01/12/2022 08:16

Skiphopbump · 01/12/2022 07:56

Have you had a look to see if there is already a pipe? I had my kitchen redone this year and was surprised to see a gas pipe in place as o had an electric hob.

I can’t see a gas pipe connected to kitchen, so i will need gas engineer to install it.

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CasperGutman · 02/12/2022 06:14

It looks like a pretty straightforward installation to me. With luck they'll be able to bring the pipe through below the worktop and so the mess of drilling the hole won't be visible in the kitchen. I'm guessing you won't mind if the hole's a bit scruffy under the stairs?

I would contact a decent independent Gas Safe registered technician. Give them a ring or send an email, and tell them you want a gas hob fitting but a supply pipe needs to be brought through the wall from the meter under the stairs.

If you have a preference for a specific model hob then mention that, otherwise give them basic details like the width of the existing electric one to be replaced. They'll probably need to check out things like the height of wall units and of any extractor above the worktop, as the rules for these differ between gas and electric.

Ask the installer what the best way forward is, but I'd probably prefer them to supply and fit the hob. That way if there's a problem later it's clear who's responsible.

Nepoyeah · 02/12/2022 06:21

Can I just piggyback on this and ask the induction people is it REALLY that good? About to buy a range cooker and thinking of changing from gas to induction because after 25 years of cleaning gas stovetops i am tired of it - but is induction REALLY as good?

ArcticSkewer · 02/12/2022 06:24

Is gas still cheaper if you pay hundreds to install a new pipe?

I'd think a standard gas engineer could do this fairly easily via the outside walls but I agree with another poster, pull your oven out first and see if there was a gas pipe there that was capped. Depends how old the house is, I suppose. Just find a local gas engineer and give them a call (absolutely not currys etc)

Would never go back after using induction, personally though, so if you decide it's not worth the hassle, I doubt you will be too sad.

ArcticSkewer · 02/12/2022 06:30

I had a range induction and loved it. Wipe clean in seconds. Instant and responsive heat. Boils water in about ten seconds. Can't start a fire or burn your kids by accident (my kids were a bit of a nightmare with the gas one). No downsides at all for me.

I am not a professional chef. I guess I missed being able to flash burn the outside of vegetables or light a spill if I couldn't find matches for candles, but that's about it. I did that about once every five years anyway.
You can buy some which are a combination I think, so you still get a burner.

Cyclistmumgrandma · 02/12/2022 06:40

Induction all the way here. Quicker and more responsive than gas and FAR easier to keep clean. New pans, if needed, will be far cheaper than having the gas supply installed! I've had induction for about 8 year now and would never go back to gas. They even use induction on Masterchef....

Nepoyeah · 02/12/2022 09:53

This is brilliant feedback, gas is really expensive where I am anyway.