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House A, House B, or don't move you idiot?

48 replies

Blibbleflibble · 15/11/2022 21:48

Okay so I live in a house that I'm hoping to sell for £400k, I'm mortgage free. I recognise this is a very fortunate position to be in.

2 houses have come on the market which are in the catchment of the school we want and near my elderly parent.

House A) £510k 3 bed detatched lovely looking house, high ceilings and curved bay windows however close to a fairly "quiet" trainline and has a small (9m deep) North East facing garden, potential to extend but not alot and will compromise an already compromised garden. 30 min walk into town centre. Early 60s house.
Mortgage would be £640.

House b) £670k (although think its overpriced atm) 3 bed detatched less pretty but looks better than our current house. South West facing garden that is twice the size of the other house so potential for bigger extention that won't compromise the garden. 15 mins walk to town, very close to lovely park. Late 50s/early 60s. Mortgage would be £1500.

Both streets are fairly quiet and seem child/cat safe.

Both need updating but are liveable, property B is slightly more suitable as it has a bath (A has a shower only and we have a young child), wouldn't be able to extend property B for years but might be able to extend A soon after we buy.

Property B would definitely be "forever" home. Property A could potentially be forever home but maybe 10 year home because of the compromises so a step on the ladder.

Both streets only seem to have houses pop up to sell every couple of years or so. We would really be pushing our budget to afford property B) maybe we are bananas to be thinking of moving in this market with high prices and high interest rates, but we really dislike our neighbour who can be nice as pie one minute and be a right nasty bastard to us the next.

We have a joint household income of approx £65k and I currently work part time and pay £420 a month in childcare. In a couple of years household income could potentially be £80 or £90k when I go full time with no childcare costs.

We have a MIP.

What think you Mumsnet? x

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Riverlee · 15/11/2022 21:52

That’s a real difference in mortgage. Can you accomadate the interest rate increases for the second one.

Freetodowhatiwant · 15/11/2022 21:53

House B, if you can afford it. Sounds lovely!

Sprig1 · 15/11/2022 22:07

Don't move (but you really need to tell us about your current house and who lives there).

Newcatbrowntail · 15/11/2022 22:15

B. You’ll never have to move again

Blibbleflibble · 15/11/2022 22:17

Riverlee · 15/11/2022 21:52

That’s a real difference in mortgage. Can you accomadate the interest rate increases for the second one.

I know right 😬 I'm looking at 3 year fixes, I hope we can earn more in 3 years when our kid's in school. Although was hoping rates might stabalise a bit too. If interest goes double figures we might be up shit creek with house B though.

We paid more than that with our old mortgage as we were trying to pay it off early but I also earned more working full time at the time and it was voluntary overpayments. Both houses will also go to band F from our current C and probably cost a bit more to heat.

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Blibbleflibble · 15/11/2022 22:38

Sprig1 · 15/11/2022 22:07

Don't move (but you really need to tell us about your current house and who lives there).

Family of 3, it's a small 1930s 3 bed semi think 2 medium size beds and a box room, tiny kitchen that can only fit an undercounter fridge, we have a fridge freezer in the conservatory, no dryer. Also built a garden office before Covid (must've been psychic) garden is North West but maybe 2.5x the length of house A.

It has potential to extend, knock down the conservatory (which needs reglazing) and have a big kitchen diner instead without compromising the garden.

The rest of the house is refurbed to a high standard. If it wasn't for the horrid attached neighbour (who also makes lots of power tool noise in his garden especially in nice weather) it would make staying much easier. We've been here 10 years but he's gotten alot worse over lockdown. We are in the catchment of the same school the other houses are.

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Blablablaaaaa · 15/11/2022 22:49

Personally I’d stay put and save while the property market flounders.

GeneratedRandomly · 15/11/2022 22:56

Cat safe? Cats and train lines don't go well together.

Blibbleflibble · 15/11/2022 23:14

GeneratedRandomly · 15/11/2022 22:56

Cat safe? Cats and train lines don't go well together.

I think she would keep away but maybe I am giving her too much credit, also maybe the infrequency would make her complacent. Its behind the houses on the opposite side of the road. Something I will have to look into seriously, I would never put her in danger.

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Sprig1 · 16/11/2022 17:13

I would stay put.

Rotherweird · 16/11/2022 17:25

I would stay put, enjoy not having a mortgage and being able to save. You might find you don't want to go full time when your DC is in school or you might want to start planning for an earlier retirement. Staying where you are gives you lots of options (including extending).

Lampzade · 16/11/2022 17:28

I would definitely stay put

Whycanineverever · 16/11/2022 17:31

Don't under estimate childcare costs for wraparound care at school if you are working and it's needed. Mine were £25 a day for one child. Plus anything from £30-£55 a day for school holidays.

Giggorata · 16/11/2022 17:38

Being mortgage free, with the garden and home office that you have, are enormous pluses.
I'd probably stay put, do the kitchen diner extension you suggested and maybe also look into a loft conversion later on.

CarPoor · 16/11/2022 17:46

Can you afford a 1500k mortgage with 420 a month childcare on 65k? Bearing in mind bills will be more, and other costs can easily rise

I think being mortgage free is a huge luxury. I wouldn't move unless I was getting something significantly better and both the houses you've mentioned have issues

Purpleheadgirl · 16/11/2022 17:49

Stay put and do-up / extend......and how do you know any new neighbours aren't any worse? Lots of people are out isingg power tools in nice weather....could be 10 x worse

BungleandGeorge · 16/11/2022 17:49

Is there anything on the market you like without the need to extend? It’s not that easy or cost effective to get work done. I’d either stay in your house as it is and wait until something more suitable comes along or go for house a. Being Detached would be a huge bonus for me, especially if your current neighbour is a pita

MultiTulip · 16/11/2022 17:53

Can you actually afford house B? I’d have thought a £270k mortgage on £65k and £400 a month childcare is really stretching the amount you’re likely to be able to borrow.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 16/11/2022 17:56

How many bathrooms in each?

Leaning toward "stay."

PurplePinecone · 16/11/2022 18:00

I would stay put. The second house the mortgage sounds crippling on your salary and childcare costs. The first one is manageable but doesn't sound ideal.

I'd wait for the recession to be over and when your out of childcare paying times and possibly better salaries.

Perhaps get a home improvement mortgage to do the parts you wanted to do on your house, as long as that would be cheaper and add value

Blossomtoes · 16/11/2022 18:23

I’d stay put. It would take a mind blowing house to make me give up being mortgage free with the economy in its current state. I don’t really understand why you’re so obsessed with extending @Blibbleflibble. I predict those huge kitchens will lose their popularity as heating costs rise.

MichaelAndEagle · 16/11/2022 18:30

I'd also stay.

BringMeTea · 16/11/2022 18:31

Given horrible neighbour, I would go option 2.

JimJamJolly · 16/11/2022 18:51

Do you know anything about the neighbours of the houses you are interested in?

Just beware of jumping out of the frying pan into the fire!!

MichaelAndEagle · 16/11/2022 20:26

I really wouldn't be giving up mortgage free living without a very good reason.
Its the dream!