Putting a wall in open plan room to separate kitchen and lounge.

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This is my thinking:
Build wall with doorway to separate lounge from kitchen diner area. Put in one of those doors which slide back into the (new) wall. Have new kitchen fitted and include extra cupboard and worktop space.

I want to replace the current fully glazed conservatory with an orangery type of conservatory with triple glazed windows and an insulated roof, heating and space for my dining table and a small sofa.

I haven't thought it all out yet but moving/buying again isn't something I want to do, I've had a very unsettled few years and I need to put roots down.

Any ideas are welcome 🙂

Doh! So I mean putting in a new kitchen which would have much more base and wall cupboard/worktop space created by the new wall. Current kitchen is dated and there isn't much storage etc.

Can you post a floor plan?

We had a purpose built small open plan house and divided it up.

hopefully I did it correctly.
plan

That isn't my house btw but is the same kind of layout.

I would do it as long as there was space for the dining table to be in the kitchen

I would make the kitchen bigger by bringing the wall towards the front of the house and going across. Just L shaped for the units so there is room for a table then have a unit or sideboard on the back wall opposite for storage.

Orangery becomes 2nd so

Orangery becomes 2nd sitting room

Like this

Wide kitchen drawers hold loads more than cupboards

Ah, I like that @RandomMess
Hadn't thought of doing it that way.

Yes to Orangery as a second sitting room, too. I had the garden landscaped a while back and I want to enjoy it in comfort.

We did something similar, to your plan, which was finished late summer this year.
Originally our lounge led through an archway into the dinning room. We originally thought we would have pocket doors or French doors dividing the lounge and the dining room, remove the dining room wall to the kitchen, and extend the kitchen with a small orangery(esque) extension.
After speaking to family with more experience in extensions though, we decided to completely divide the lounge from the original dining room, (for more wall area for furniture/ appliances either side), knock the old dining room into the original kitchen, and extend half the new kitchen area with a 4x4 sq metre extension with a lantern.
We are really pleased with the result.

I think I'd remove the wall between the kitchen and living room entirely and make it into a kitchen/dinner and then have the new orangery as a living room.

We have a half wall between kitchen and sitting area, about 1.4m high. It's enough to build worktop & cupboard space into, hide washing up when you're sat down and there's a sofa against the non-kitchen side. That option wouldn't block the light and you'd keep the open plan feel.

Having lived in an open plan house with open plan stairs it isn't great.

The only door between the kitchen and the bedrooms is the bedroom door - it gets noisy and lack of privacy if you have DC or visitors.

Washing machine can be heard all over the house as can the tumble dryer. Fortunately we had brick built outbuildings (coal store) that they could go in!

Once we put in glazed internal doors it was so much cosier and quiet/private.

@StamppotAndGravy you've hit on my dilemma with your suggestion, which I do like; the trade off between light and space. It's the open plan feel that I just can't fully embrace! But I also don't like the idea of losing alot of light. The house faces South West so the lounge is light and the kitchen is the darker end.

@RandomMess my stairs are blocked off so noise doesn't travel quite as much as it would do but yes, the noise travelling is an issue.
I have the washing machine in the garage but with the remodelling I'm thinking I could move it into the kitchen.

We had glazed double doors between lounge and kitchen/diner.

As the wall would be new you could put in a long glazed panel at the top of it to help keep it light.

With the orangery you will have a bright day time lounge and the front room will be your nice cosy one. Best of both worlds.

You could look at building a laundry "cupboard" where the under-stairs is perhaps?

This isn't my house, but it's a similar idea. It's a bit old fashioned but works well when you can't maintain a show home style open plan!

Yes, I could do that, glazed doors would work.

I think next steps will be to get a few builders in to discuss options and prices, get some rough but reasonably accurate measurements done so I can discuss what I want with kitchen planners, I keep an eye on kitchen threads for tips (we're talking early 2023 for all that now though).

Triple glazing for theOrangery, or even just conservatory. We added a triple glazed conservatory 6m x 2.5 m , dwarf walls plus one set of double doors onto the garden. Triple glazed glass pitched roof. Two radiators on the central heating with thermostatic valves. It was made in Norway, so really well insulated ( got the idea from the Bridge) but sold in England.

it was wonderful, we used it as our dining room and we have sat at the table with snow falling on the roof without feeling cold, heating on low. I really miss it.

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen and that's what I want too. If you are able to link to the company you used I'd appreciate it, although there's a local independent company who I'd approach as well, they are very good and have excellent reputation. 🙂