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Out of the blue £1,000 bill from our neighbours!

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MamaVikki · 25/09/2022 19:11

Help! I’m stunned… My neighbour knocked on the door on a Monday to say that they’d organised for our road to be tarmacked on that Wednesday at a cost of £8K between 8 houses. A year ago they’d muttered something about the road needing to be tarmacked but that was that. We’ve had no discussion since. They then bizarrely said that they would pay for it and whoever wants to chip in can chip in. We don’t have a spare £1k sitting around and if there’d been a discussion about it we would’ve wanted more time to try and save for it – but would’ve also liked to have looked into all the options (like patching the potholes maybe?) We have no idea if they even compared quotes. The work has now been done. They ended up only tarmacking the part in front of their house, although we drive over this to access our house. They’ve come round with the bill – which we need to pay into their bank account – in a fairly aggressive manner but still saying it’s up to us if we pay -? I’m upset and confused and have no idea where we stand with this? Can anyone offer any advice?! 🙏

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Pixiedust1234 · 26/09/2022 00:15

CinnamonOrangeCremeBrulee · 26/09/2022 00:09

Looks smart @comefromaway!

Spent most of today putting in.loads of washing and cleaning Dds room. 7 bags of recycling/rubbish/clothes bank. I texted her not to buy anything more.

I May have bought her some Christmas bedding . Sorry for the c word all!

Dammit...my watching link only showed your first line and I got all excited to see OPs photo of the tarmaced drive. So disappointed Sad (and very of sad of me)

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/09/2022 00:24

Just ignore/tell him to fuck off

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C4tastrophe · 26/09/2022 12:45

Pictures!!

Looneytune253 · 26/09/2022 13:56

Just maybe phrase it more that 'as only the area outside your own house has been done and not the rest of the street, I don't think it's fair to expect us all to pay, maybe we should save the money for when we do the road outside our own homes. I hadn't realised you would expect us to pay for the area outside your home but not ours'

DameHelena · 26/09/2022 17:43

By the sounds of the post they only did in front of their house. On this basis alone I’d say no.
also they did this with any prior consultation so twice no.

This. Consultation is key for any costs that might be shareable between households. They don't have a leg to stand on.
I'd ignore the bill. If they ask again, say you weren't consulted so you're not paying.

Thinking2022 · 26/09/2022 17:54

My grandparents lived on a private road and the house owners along it all had to pay for resurfacing on a regular basis. In the end to save money they Agreed to use gravel instead of tarmac. Before objecting to pay it just check your title deeds as you may have an obligation noted on the title to contribute to the costs of maintaining it. If you don't make a contribution they may block your access to spite you so hopefully there is a way around this for you

exaltedwombat · 26/09/2022 17:59

"A year ago they’d muttered something"

Are you SURE that's the full story?

wiccamum · 26/09/2022 18:02

Echo what PPs have said. No consultation, no agreed timeline, you’ve not seen any quotes and the work seems focused on their house only. I wouldn’t entertain paying anything. I’ve had issues with shared spaces before, with a private car park. It flooded due to a sewage blockage (nasty) so it was an emergency situation to prevent further damage. We all agreed it needed doing quickly, quotes were circulated and work was done- we all paid an equal share as we were all impacted equally. No qualms at all. This all seems a bit iffy op.

IsobelElsie123 · 26/09/2022 18:07

Your neighbours chose the Contractors, agreed the cost and work in addition to managing the relationship. Do not pay!

caringcarer · 26/09/2022 18:24

I don't understand why only tarmac in front of their house? Surely they had their bit done then they pay for it. I would be telling them I would only pay if the bit in front of my house was done.

VerbenaGirl · 26/09/2022 18:25

Say that you are not in a position to pay and note that it’s a shame that they didn’t consult with you prior to having the work undertaken.

Isinglass20 · 26/09/2022 18:31

Read your title Deeds, important if leasehold property and even if not there may be covenants with the land. so useful to know for the future.
keep any communication on a professional level in case it ends up in court. Keep notes dates times.
property law is notoriously complex and conveyancers often lax and don’t undertake the checks.
your response to the neighbour is to request that they put it in writing with proof of your liability.
then take the letter round to other houses.
your mortgage provider may need to be informed if the deeds show you do have some liability under a maintenance agreement or estate charge

AChickenClucks · 26/09/2022 18:31

Apologies if this has already been said (been working all day, haven't had time to RTFT, but is your road private, OP? As in privately owned by everyone who buys a house in the road?

I only ask because that's our situation - but we knew that when we bought the house, and we also have meetings as a road (there are only 7 of us) whenever work needs doing, and we always get 3 quotes, and we all have to agree on the cost before work starts.

But if you're not legally a part-owner of a private road as part of buying your house, then your neighbours don't have a leg to stand on!

Dreamwhisper · 26/09/2022 18:37

Just make a counter offer for what you are prepared to pay. And let them know when you can pay eg instalments. No point falling out over it but try to negotiate a solution you are happy with

No!!! You don't pay for anything you didn't have any say or involvement in

PinkButtercups · 26/09/2022 18:41

I wouldn't pay.

We had neighbours knock on our door with an invoice for a 'blocked drain' it wasn't blocked, it was right outside their house and the way the houses sit it was around the corner from ours. I said absolutely not they didn't need to pay a private company and should've phoned the water company.

Not my problem they called private drain clearers out (I don't know what they're called). It wasn't even blocked apparently it was something to do with their toilet not flushing properly. Yes let me just give you some of my money because you're having toilet troubles. Twats.

MrsLighthouse · 26/09/2022 18:43

No way . They have chosen to do this without written agreement or any documentation of quotes etc . What next ! Gold street lamps 🙄

Corrosive · 26/09/2022 18:43

Are you sure of the legal situation regarding ownership of the road

Solonge · 26/09/2022 18:44

Tell them you cant....no spare money at all and frankly....if you had been involved you would have wanted to see several quotes and look at Trust Pilot reviews first. Their own daft fault...TWF pays for a job to be done then asks people to pay for it...?

KikoLemons · 26/09/2022 18:49

Isinglass20 · 26/09/2022 18:31

Read your title Deeds, important if leasehold property and even if not there may be covenants with the land. so useful to know for the future.
keep any communication on a professional level in case it ends up in court. Keep notes dates times.
property law is notoriously complex and conveyancers often lax and don’t undertake the checks.
your response to the neighbour is to request that they put it in writing with proof of your liability.
then take the letter round to other houses.
your mortgage provider may need to be informed if the deeds show you do have some liability under a maintenance agreement or estate charge

Another sensible post. Everyone telling OP she doesn't have to pay have no idea what her obligations are. Property law is complex. And expensive to get into a fight about.

BreakfastClub80 · 26/09/2022 18:50

We live on an unadopted road and had it resurfaced some years ago. Not everyone contributed but we had plenty of consultation etc. From what I remember, the law was that technically you are responsible for your frontage. This, you wouldn’t be liable for their frontage if this is all they’ve tarmaced. However, I don’t know if that’s definitely true or still true or if that applies for a private road. You may want to do a bit of research on that before you decide your response.

Rapidtango · 26/09/2022 18:53

Dparents lived on a short lane that hadn't been adopted by the council but luckily it was resurfaced just before they moved in. Still looks pristine 20 years later. Evidently the residents agreed to put away £250 per property per year (7 houses) for road maintenance but stopped about 10 years ago because they'd built up quite a large amount of funds - all properly managed and regularly reviewed, now waiting for the next maintenance task. All the neighbours are decent people, not a CF in sight, agreed payment in advance and it's worked well over the years.

LimaCharlieHotelPapa · 26/09/2022 18:58

KikoLemons · 26/09/2022 18:49

Another sensible post. Everyone telling OP she doesn't have to pay have no idea what her obligations are. Property law is complex. And expensive to get into a fight about.

I agree, but I'd also wonder where your neighbours stand - if it's a private road and you're all partly responsible, do they have the right to go ahead and book contractors without you having any say in who carries it out, the extent/type of work involved and without any written quotes etc in advance?

flowersfromheaven · 26/09/2022 18:58

He's trying it on because he doesn't want to pay for it himself. He arranged for the road to be tarmacked so let him pay, And you ain't signed any paper work so it's down to him. How's he got the cheek to give you a bill that's is unreal. Do not pay because he will start popping over with more bills for work he as had done if you pay this x

Thorj · 26/09/2022 19:01

I’m guessing you’d a) prefer not to pay and b) not have a difficult relationship with your neighbour. I’m the circumstances you describe, this seems perfectly reasonable. So here’s what I would suggest (I have a background in solving disputes):

  1. find out who is responsible for organising things like this. And what the procedure might be, ie. What consultation, between neighbours, what procurement process should take place before the go ahead for any work.this might affect things, but
  2. it is hard to Imagine your neighbour has acted reasonably in any basis. reasonable would mean:
a) properly consulting/holding a meeting with all neighbours b) agreeing what, if anything needs doing c) agreeing on a procurement procedure (getting quotes and so on, discussing same) d) agreeing when to do the works, who is to pay what, any constraints, limitations as to the extent of the works etc)

in your case, I’m guessing that it would have been beneficial to mend more of the road than just their bit? If so, the cost per metre would probably have been cheaper, something that should have been discussed.

your next step:

with the above in mind, I would be inclined to see what your neighbour ours think and what they knew. Possibly make a joint approach to the neighbours who had the work done and ask them for more information as outlined above. tell them your surprised to receive the bill, and not happy to pay it (don’t tell them you can’t afford it, because that suggests you would pay if you could).

ha I g asked your questions, tell them you’ll go away and think about it. If you think it’s reasonable to pay something, however small, it should be in the basis of a properly considered work plan, base in at least three competitive quotes.

but keep your options open, and gently let your neighbours know that they’ve acted unreasonably, and whatever the outcome now, any future work in common areas of land should be fully discussed.

right is in your side.

if this is helpful, let me know. And also the outcome!