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Moving - what did you leave and did you negotiate a price for it?

26 replies

SheilasLemonade · 08/09/2022 08:29

Hopefully moving in a few months. Chain of three, we're in the middle.

Sellers have said they'll leave their range cooker, which suits us as we can hopefully then negotiate to leave ours as it'll be a pain to move. Do these things tend to be a straight swap?

Our buyers have asked whether we're leaving our wood burner. We're happy to but at a price as it was only installed in October 2020. Is £1k a reasonable price to ask?

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Clariana · 08/09/2022 08:31

I would consider a wood burner as part of the house, would you take a gas fire with you if you moved?

Goldendoodlemum · 08/09/2022 08:32

Seem a bit bonkers to me. I wouldn't dream of taking a range cooker or a wood burner with me Confused surely they are fixtures in the house?! If I was buying I would assume they were included and would be pretty peeved if I was being charged extra for them.

Clariana · 08/09/2022 08:32

Oh, and I meant, included in the price of the house, not extra

Chemenger · 08/09/2022 08:35

A wood burner is a fixture, surely and included in the cost.

Narcheska · 08/09/2022 08:38

I’d expect a wood burner to be staying. Think of the cost you’d have to pay to remove it and make good the area but I would have factored it into our asking price

parkrunner1977 · 08/09/2022 08:38

I bought a house a few years ago that had a wood burner and a rangemaster stove. Sellers included the burner as part of the fixtures & fittings but I had to negotiate for the stove. Think it was around £1,000, can't quite remember.

Catslovepies · 08/09/2022 08:39

If the wood burner and range were listed on the particulars when the house was advertised I would think they need to be left at no additional charge.

ZenNudist · 08/09/2022 08:40

The wood burner has already been factored into the selling price of the house so no you can't charge extra for it just because it was expensive.

I've got a new front door and a new garage roof, all told over £3k. No I can't charge extra for these or take them with me!

parkrunner1977 · 08/09/2022 08:42

Also from recent experience of having my current house on the market, the agent said anything listed in the particulars is taken as being included so if the log burner was mentioned you may not be able to negotiate a price for it.

Bouledeneige · 08/09/2022 08:44

Is expect both the range and wood burner to be fixtures. Are you really going to take the wood burner with you if they don't want to buy it? What if there's nowhere suitable for one in your new house? I left everything - washing machine and dryer, in-built fridge, curtains and lights. Just make sure you're happy with your selling price.

hedgehoglurker · 08/09/2022 08:44

Is the woodburner listed and shown as a feature in the property details? If so, it is very cheeky to ask for more money.

Range ovens are usually negotiable as movers would move it for you. Unless it is a primary heating source of course, then it should be included.

FuzzyPuffling · 08/09/2022 08:45

The house I'm hoping to buy has not-my-taste-at-all Star Trek style lighting which they have proudly said are all staying at no extra cost.
They did ask if I wanted the American fridge freezer, some mirrors and a dressing table. I don't, but clearly they aren't fixtures, so fair enough for asking.

I would definitely expect a wood burner to be included. Just as my beautiful new kitchen is 😢. ( It's made its money though)

EmmaGrundyForPM · 08/09/2022 08:46

You can't charge for the Woodburner! It's part of the fixtures.

An oven is slightly different but again, I wouldn't expect to be charged for it. If it appears in the house advert then you should not be asking for money. However, if your advert said "space for a range cooker" then that would indicate you wouldn't be leaving it.

We are in the process of moving house. All our kitchen appliances are integrated, but the house we are moving to has freestanding appliances. They are leaving their range cooker and we don't have to pay anything.

Ragwort · 08/09/2022 08:51

I would make sure I set the original price to include fixtures and fittings .... taking out a wood burner sounds so petty. We left a wood burner at our last property- wouldn't have occurred to us to try and negotiate for it. We also left curtains, light fittings etc etc. Even left a fabulous freestanding American style fridge freezer as it was just too much hassle to move.
When we bought our current house the seller did ask us to pay for some blinds, we did agree because they were useful and paid a bit extra ...but they removed one - it was a small blind on a landing ... I know the house they moved to - no way would it have fitted any of their new windows Hmm . However 11 years on and we have never bothered to replace it Grin.

RoutineLow · 08/09/2022 08:54

It's beyond cheeky and unreasonable to ask for money for a wood burner! That's a fixture in the house. Will you also charge them for the paint from when you decorated the lounge? Or the glass in the windows? All these things contribute to the market value of your house, which your buyer is already paying. Don't be greedy.

LionessesRules · 08/09/2022 08:59

Imagine turning the house upside down. Stuff that stays in place should remain.

I'd say the cooker and woodburner would be expected to stay. Don't forget if the cooker has a gas connection it needs a qualified person to connect and disconnect.

Curtains are dubious - but will they fit the new house?

Lights can go, but need to be left in a functioning state - ie a fitting and a bulb.

We would have declined to pay for anything, and hoped you gave up on shifting it as too difficult.

Eek3under3 · 08/09/2022 09:10

I would expect both to be included. Our sellers tried to get us to pay for the summer house - we called their bluff and said we were happy for them to take it. It’s still in the garden…

whoruntheworldgirls · 08/09/2022 09:21

I would expect both to be included in the sale, we didn't charge extra for our log burner when we moved and didn't even consider not leaving the oven

Roselilly36 · 08/09/2022 09:22

Some sellers are really cheeky I agree, we left the range cooker wouldn’t have crossed my mind to have charged our buyers for it.

Digimoor · 08/09/2022 09:25

I'd go ahead and agreed a price for the wood burner esp if it's still under warranty

MintJulia · 08/09/2022 09:38

I'd see a wood burner as a fixture. You can't unplug it and take it away,

When I moved in to our current house, there was a gas fire that was condemned on day 3, a built in electric oven which exploded it's glass after 3 months and a boiler that the previous owner had brought with them from a previous house and was about 30 years old, the wrong size for the house and no longer serviceable.

They were the original Bodgit & Scarper. 😀I've spent the last 10 years putting things right. We are nearly done. Just the conservatory to sort out.

Tessasanderson · 08/09/2022 09:44

Totally CF territory.

If i was purchasing the house and the seller came up with that kind of talk i would insist on the flue being made right and all work carried out to cover it up. Essentially you would be leaving them with a hole in the wall. I would be making sure it cost you £1000 to put it right as well

Janespade · 08/09/2022 10:05

Over the years, I've been on both the receiving end of a lot of generosity - fridges, washing machines, curtains, pianos etc left and also turned up to a house to find every last light bulb gone and the carpets stripped and none of the holes left by removing the lights made good (carpet was supposed to be left.)
I'd expect a woodburner to be left as it's an integral feature. Likewise an AGA/Rayburn that provides heat/back boiler function. A modern electric range cooker which is effectively a double oven - a point of negotiation. If new, I'd expect to pay for it as a buyer, if old then I'd be surprised if the seller took it.

White goods - again if something is expensive and relatively new I'd expect the seller to take or negotiate a price. Not so for for integral items like fitted fridges and dishwashers - you tend to see these as part of the fixtures and fittings, unless they can be slid out without needing work to sort out the unit after. I have always hated moving washing machines, which never seem to work well after, so my preference is to buy the one that's there or a new one and sell/leave mine behind.

Curtains - may well not fit a new house but I think people take them if they were super expensive (the good quality interlined ones can be many thousands) or if they are worried they won't have any curtains in new house and need a stop gap. As a buyer I will offer to buy any curtains I like/ that have clearly been bespoke made for awkwardly place or unusual sized windows.

I have also bought and sold a number of items of furniture with houses./ Custom made bookshelves and dressers and other large pieces are often a pain to move and will then need reworking for a new space. When downsizing a relative sold a number of antiques to the buyers as they were too big for her new place.

mondaytosunday · 08/09/2022 10:11

Ha I'd say no thanks and you'd leave it anyway - I mean are you going to pay £100s if not more to remove it and reinstall it elsewhere?
Things like nice chandeliers or Aga I might pay for as the former are easily removed and the later are really expensive, but not a wood burner!

Annonnimoouse42 · 08/09/2022 11:16

we're moving soon and seller is taking carpets. She smokes like a train so its probably for the best really.