Help me shift a ceiling-based monstrosity please?

[Verbena87]

Living room ceiling has a hideous ceiling rose in the middle. It no longer has a light as we moved them, but electrician cut a hole in it to remove previous hideous chandelier so I can see that it’s made of a kind of yellowy, hard foam covered in plasticky stuff.

I want to get it off without disasters.

From an exploratory poke with a knife, it is very well stuck on with adhesive (can’t see any screws). The ceiling is 1930s lath and plaster. Of bloody course it is.

Do I cut a groove in the plaster down to the laths round the outside edge and try and bring the lot down (mask and goggles and dust sheets, obviously) then mend the hole? Or is there a way to preserve the plaster underneath and just patch the hole where the wiring used to be?

I'd be prepared to re plaster the whole ceiling!

If it is original, it will be screwed into the ceiling and the holes of the screws filled with plaster of Paris.
As above, prepare for mess and replastering.

Thanks both (also groaning and despair 🤣. Can’t afford to get ceiling replastered. Can mend a hole myself but can’t replaster the lot!)

It’s not original, definitely, and has nowhere for screws to go except 2 empty holes in the centre where the nasty chandelier thingy was screwed into the beam) the surface is definitely, visibly a kind of plastic, no change in texture to suggest blobs of filler anywhere). It’s poly/resin and glued.

will attach a picture where it’s broken so you can see what it’s made of…

Can you try and remove a bit more around the hole?
I think bit by bit if you are trying to avoid a full replaster of the ceiling.

Do you no longer have a ceiling light? Probably have been easier to replace it with a nicer version as without replastering it is likely to show even when filled

You wont need to replaster the whole ceiling but you will need to patch it.

@Calmdown14 we removed horrible wall lights and central ceiling light and had two nice ceiling lights in different locations instead. My plan is to patch and then replace with a lightweight-but-less-hideous rose (there is cornicing and a bay window so it feels appropriate to the house/room, but will go for one that doesn’t have a hole for a light fitting and is purely decorative).

@silverclock222 this is what I’m hoping 🤞

If you are going to replace it with a new rose, I would choose one that is wider than the current one, then carefully cut out the current one with a saw the can cut plaster and is for detail work (iyswim) and then stick the new rose over the hole… voila

@SeaToSki i like your style! Was going to go slightly bigger anyway both because current one looks a bit meagre and to cover my patch. Maybe I don’t need to patch at all. Wonder if it might need more to stick to though? Be a bugger if the new one fell off 🤣

By the way big thanks to everyone who’s taken time to reply - really quite a boring thread so thought I might get nothing at all.

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Be careful when you are cutting through the ceiling. Too much vibration and the whole lot could come down if it is lath and plaster.

We've had to do this in the past. It is a messy job but should be ok. We chipped away at ours with flat wall scrapers, the sort you'd strip wallpaper with.

Thanks @BarbaraPickle , this is the kind of consoling thing I need to hear!

I shall come and report back when I’ve worked up the courage and sorted it/fucked up my entire ceiling. 🤣