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Retrospective planning permission

15 replies

Whoops1 · 28/07/2022 06:36

Hello, we’ve just been informed by the council we have to apply for this for the shed we have just built. Can anyone help me with some advice, what do I need, how do I do it? I’ll ring the council, but she’s not answering her phone. Also don’t want to inadvertently do anything wrong.
thank you!

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OnlyaMummy · 28/07/2022 06:53

I imagine you'll need to submit a retrospective householder application.

I'd advise going on a site called planning portal and making an account. You fill in an online form attach your documents and can pay online.

Before submitting check your councils planning page on the website and see what their local validation requirements are.

You'll need
A location plan
And an existing plan showing the retrospective shed at the minimum.

I do this as my job, let me know if you have any other questions.

Whoops1 · 28/07/2022 06:59

Oh gosh, thank you very much.
Dh has built it as a way of recovering from brain damage, it’s a massive symbol of hope and would really set him back to take it down.

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LeuvenMan · 28/07/2022 07:00

We had to do this for a garden office we had installed last year. Look at planning portal and your councils permitted development rights. Is your house listed or in a conservation area? ( ours was in a conservation area). That changes the rules significantly
Thankfully we got retroactive permission granted 😅

Whoops1 · 28/07/2022 07:02

Thanks, and well done! What reasons, etc did you give? Or do you need to give?

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LeuvenMan · 28/07/2022 08:23

The building was slightly too high, as it was only 1m from the neighbours boundary wall. I stated it wasn't visible from the road, other properties had similar constructions, and met the rest of the planning conditions (less than 50% of garden area etc). Check your local authority planning site for a list as every region is different.
Also included a covering letter with the application.
We also kept in regular contact with the planning officer, and got his advice before submitting our application.
Best of luck with your application, hope it goes well

Ducksinthebath · 28/07/2022 10:52

We had similar with a cabin in the garden. I wouldn't advise phoning the council. Our local borough basically told us not to both applying retrospectively as they would turn it down. We looked online at other similar applications that had been accepted and just cribbed from them. And were 100% successful. So glad we did actually apply because after our call to the council we were ready to throw in the towel and were looking at spending money to have it taken down and sold online, sunk into the ground, all sorts.

Moomoola · 28/07/2022 11:26

Oh gosh, thanks guys. I’m getting a copy of the plans from the deeds. And will look at planning portal as onlyyamummy suggests.
it’s quite a nasty letter - and basically says someone has complained,and the council has checked and they’ve decided it’s on the curtilege of a listed building ( it’s on the garden we own next to a listed property garden).and we have 21 days.
I won’t call them ducksinthebath it goes straight to answerphone anyway. should I email the enforcement officer as you suggest leuvenman and ask advice/ tell them ever so sorry will be sending plans, believe it to be on our land. Or is it best to crack on and fill out the e planning forms on the website without getting in touch?
sorry to be a womble!

LeuvenMan · 28/07/2022 11:52

If they have written to you, probably not worth emailing as they will just refer you back to that statement.
Ours was next to a Grade 2listed building, however we got approved.
Look at the guidelines and planning portal, and check carefully you've got everything covered before you submit.
Look at similar applications on the council's website as a reference.
If it's get rejected first time you can appeal, however if it gets that far it would be worth employing the services of a professional to do your appeal application for you

Ducksinthebath · 28/07/2022 12:29

You can also ask a friendly local counsellor to insist your application goes before the committee. I have friends who did that and they were able to make all sorts of arguments based on emotion and fairness. Only works if your committee is composed in a way that is liable to be favourable. Let’s just say our local Labour counsellors aren’t huge fans of centrally set planning rules. The friends’ case did tug at the heart strings a bit. Not sure our work from home cabin would have had the same reception.

Whoops1 · 30/07/2022 17:26

Thanks. We are such idiots for not checking, didn’t even occ our to us. Also makes me feel slightly I’ll that one of our neighbours can be so petty. Should have known. Anxiety through the roof again!

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Binfire · 31/07/2022 13:12

We recently got planning permission for an extension which is in the green belt, where they usually refuse any building or extensions at all. It was refused initially. We had to agree to knock down a large barn nearby and add the volume onto the house. Obviously a completely
different situation to yours.
Just checking that you didn’t replace an old shed with the new shed of a similar size? If there was already a shed there and you can prove it then it might be less of an issue.

Ducksinthebath · 01/08/2022 22:23

Do you know for sure it was a neighbour? For us it was a local planning officer looking at another development on Google Maps and spotted us plus another couple of local houses in a similar position. It could be something like that.

TurmericFan · 02/08/2022 08:45

This issue in a conservation area written from the neighbour's POV (though turned out to be more about an aggressive dog than the office):

www.mumsnet.com/talk/legal_matters/4595078-garden-office-planning-permission-issue-flats-not-houses

Whoops1 · 02/08/2022 23:09

Thank you all. We should have a copy of the deeds tomorrow. Apparantly it’s in the curtilege if a grade 2 listed. They sent the letter to the grade 2 listed, so if he hadnt passed it in to us we wouldn’t have known anything about it. Ironically they’ve just built about a gazillion rows of box like characterless modern homes. Down the road. No trees, a lot of straight roads and concrete. Such a shame.

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Whoops1 · 16/08/2022 07:49

Just to say thank you!
i wrote to the council and tbf. She wrote back nicely saying the complainant had given the wrong address and the photos gave the impression the shed was on listed land. Cfs! I am wondering how they managed that without coming onto our garden, which doesn’t make me feel great.
we are within the parameters so MASSIVE a relief. We also aren’t in anyones way - listed land is just brambles. Dh now wants to build a big fence round the listed land to stop them prying!

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