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Anyone noticed the market has changed?

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yaxe · 16/06/2022 18:17

We are in the process of buying (have sold) & it was mad in March, lots of overbidding etc. I've noticed now reductions & stuff is staying on rather than going in a wk. It's making me a bit nervous tbh.

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Doubleraspberry · 25/09/2022 13:06

Ah, I see. That isn’t an issue at all as we don’t intend to sell for a couple of decades!

WickedSerious · 26/09/2022 10:53

There are currently fifty six houses on the market in our area,a third of them have been reduced and half a dozen of them have been for sale for over a year.For a long time the amount of properties available here hovered around the twenty five to twenty eight mark and it was a disaster if they hadn't sold within two weeks.

DeadHouseBounce · 26/09/2022 22:30

Changechangychange · 24/09/2022 00:21

Hmm, we could have bought a house for £850k in 2020, on a 2.5% mortgage. Similar houses are now on the market for £1.1m, and mortgages are 4.5%. If prices drop to £1m next year, but mortgages are 6.5% as predicted, we are still a lot worse off than if we’d bought two years ago.

When were mortgages last at 6.5%, or 8.5%? That is the price you are going back to, a magic fairy doesn`t suspend prices at Bubble Turbo Forever when rates rise, wages have certainly not kept up, house prices are going to crash....a lot.

DeadHouseBounce · 26/09/2022 22:32

WickedSerious · 26/09/2022 10:53

There are currently fifty six houses on the market in our area,a third of them have been reduced and half a dozen of them have been for sale for over a year.For a long time the amount of properties available here hovered around the twenty five to twenty eight mark and it was a disaster if they hadn't sold within two weeks.

Looks like they will have to reduce a bit more if they want to sell.

Notyetthere · 27/09/2022 13:32

With the way interest rates are going, I am not surprised at the number of reductions on rightmove in our area. I can imagine is going to get worse.

Changechangychange · 27/09/2022 13:39

DeadHouseBounce · 26/09/2022 22:30

When were mortgages last at 6.5%, or 8.5%? That is the price you are going back to, a magic fairy doesn`t suspend prices at Bubble Turbo Forever when rates rise, wages have certainly not kept up, house prices are going to crash....a lot.

We’re in London, there are plenty of people who can afford £6000-8000 per month mortgage payments. Unfortunately we can’t, but plenty can.

I would be amazed if prices crashed. They literally haven’t fallen in this area of London at any point over the last 40 years. Prices might stop rising, people might stop putting their houses on the market, but they won’t crash. Too much overseas money/banker’s bonuses to prop up prices.

RoseyPalm · 27/09/2022 13:49

Prices started easing in some areas back in the early summer, when we put ours for sale. That has now spread to other parts of UK.
Prices for different types of houses also move slightly differently.

BlueMongoose · 27/09/2022 14:57

hanxsy · 29/08/2022 14:47

It's amazing how Ireland is doing so much better than the U.K.

Indeed. It couldn't possibly be due to us leaving the largest trading block within spitting distance, of course.....😕

Shitfather · 27/09/2022 15:17

Changechangychange · 27/09/2022 13:39

We’re in London, there are plenty of people who can afford £6000-8000 per month mortgage payments. Unfortunately we can’t, but plenty can.

I would be amazed if prices crashed. They literally haven’t fallen in this area of London at any point over the last 40 years. Prices might stop rising, people might stop putting their houses on the market, but they won’t crash. Too much overseas money/banker’s bonuses to prop up prices.

If literally, then can you provide references to data please?

oiltrader · 27/09/2022 15:24

jan-byers
SEPTEMBER 27, 2022 AT 12:25#25
I am a developer
We have had 5 mortgage offers cancelled today by Halifax and NW
They have withdrawn the product
They are going to offer the buyers a new product at a higher rate
The buyers are totally spooked

propertyindustryeye.com/banks-are-preparing-for-house-prices-to-fall-by-a-third/#comments

Changechangychange · 27/09/2022 15:30

Shitfather · 27/09/2022 15:17

If literally, then can you provide references to data please?

Yep sure. Small blip in 2008, otherwise up and up.

Anyone noticed the market has changed?
WendyWagon · 27/09/2022 16:42

@oiltrader
Oh lordy. Just offered on a house today.
Thanks for the article.

Doubleraspberry · 27/09/2022 16:59

Gloomily waiting for our mortgage offer to be retracted. We are with Halifax and it’s a high risk contractor mortgage so feel we are very likely in line for this.

Cattenberg · 27/09/2022 20:44

My mortgage advisor spent much of his day reassuring clients that their mortgage offers won’t be retracted. However, he urged anyone in the process of applying to get their application in today, as he couldn’t guarantee the interest rate would be the same tomorrow!

It’s worrying to read on this thread that some offers have been retracted. I have chased my solicitor to send me my mortgage deed form and will send it back ASAP.

SpidersAreShitheads · 27/09/2022 20:53

I’m about to sell a fairly modern but small 2-bed end terrace house. One of those bog standard builds with the stairs in the living room that you can find anywhere. Prob value iro £170-180k.

I’d say mainly a first time buyer/professional couple without kids or MAYBE someone moving from a flat would be interested. Very good location in terms of proximity to town/facilities.

Do you think these cheaper/smaller houses are going to be hit as hard as the bigger, more expensive properties?? I have to sell but for various reasons couldn’t go to market until now (nearly ready). But we could do with selling asap!! Properties like mine still seem to be shifting in my area….at the moment.

Riverlee · 27/09/2022 22:19

Phil and Kirsty would advise to ‘future-proof’ your purchase, so buy a house over a flat, as you can live there longer, so you may be okay.

BlueMongoose · 27/09/2022 22:50

goshy · 23/08/2022 13:00

It's also affordability, so much house buying in recent years in London has been driven by huge equity gains. I know lots of people who made 400/500k, which then helps them move up to the next property. The trouble is now it's much harder to make that sort of money.

That really makes little sense if the 'next property' is a more valuable one. In a rising market, it costs more to trade up, because the gap you're bridging gets bigger. If you want to trade up, you actually need prices to fall. It's the size of the gap that matters, not the absolute price.
Outside of property speculators, the only people who gain from a rising market are people trading down, or inheriting.

DeadHouseBounce · 29/09/2022 00:28

Notyetthere · 27/09/2022 13:32

With the way interest rates are going, I am not surprised at the number of reductions on rightmove in our area. I can imagine is going to get worse.

Lets hope so.

GreenLunchBox · 29/09/2022 00:35

Changechangychange · 27/09/2022 13:39

We’re in London, there are plenty of people who can afford £6000-8000 per month mortgage payments. Unfortunately we can’t, but plenty can.

I would be amazed if prices crashed. They literally haven’t fallen in this area of London at any point over the last 40 years. Prices might stop rising, people might stop putting their houses on the market, but they won’t crash. Too much overseas money/banker’s bonuses to prop up prices.

Especially now the pound is worth fuck all

rainingsnoring · 29/09/2022 09:55

GreenLunchBox · 29/09/2022 00:35

Especially now the pound is worth fuck all

Except that the super rich will now see the UK is an incredibly risky investment and therefore far less attractive.

Changechangychange · 29/09/2022 11:46

rainingsnoring · 29/09/2022 09:55

Except that the super rich will now see the UK is an incredibly risky investment and therefore far less attractive.

I don’t think London property is generally seen as a risky long-term investment is it?

The issue currently is mortgage affordability. Overseas buyers aren’t getting mortgages, they are buying outright. So a price drop and weak pound, with rising rental prices, is a good thing for them.

To be clear, I am a buyer and all of this is terrible for me. I am not in favour. But I’m not sure it is a major issue for somebody buying up multiple flats to rent out in central London.

C4tastrophe · 29/09/2022 12:12

Changechangychange · 29/09/2022 11:46

I don’t think London property is generally seen as a risky long-term investment is it?

The issue currently is mortgage affordability. Overseas buyers aren’t getting mortgages, they are buying outright. So a price drop and weak pound, with rising rental prices, is a good thing for them.

To be clear, I am a buyer and all of this is terrible for me. I am not in favour. But I’m not sure it is a major issue for somebody buying up multiple flats to rent out in central London.

The government would be more popular if they stopped non-residents and off shored companies from buying UK residential property.

rainingsnoring · 29/09/2022 12:12

@Changechangychange -it hasn't been thought of as a risky investment but I think that situation has changed now. The UK is seen as a much more risky investment by those with money.

rainingsnoring · 29/09/2022 12:15

C4tastrophe · 29/09/2022 12:12

The government would be more popular if they stopped non-residents and off shored companies from buying UK residential property.

That's true, they have been doing British people a great disservice.
Unfortunately, as the UK has been living above its means for decades, successive governments have been positively encouraging wealthy foreigners to launder their dirty money in the London property market (obviously not all is dirty money but you understand the point).

WendyWagon · 30/09/2022 14:01

@yaxe
Hello OP can I ask if your purchase went through? Lots coming back to the market in our southern market down. No price reductions of any note.