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Renting a property with a pet...

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Prerapher · 12/05/2022 17:00

In my case it's a dog.
I'm trying to find rented property but I'm constantly coming up against the NO PETS clause in just about every property description I read.

My dog is a clean, well behaved and quiet and has never damaged anything in her life, probably a better bet than a lot of people out there 😂

Could anyone who is (or ever has been in this situation) please advise how I might be able to deal with it, I would even be prepared to pay extra.

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underneaththeash · 14/05/2022 11:05

Basic issue is that animals cause more wear and tear and you can no longer accept a higher despoil to offset it.

only 2 of our properties have a garden, but we’d probably accept a small dog or cat if someone offered to pay a higher rent.

ginghamstarfish · 14/05/2022 11:17

Ridiculous to say landlords should not be allowed to choose whether to allow pets, of course they should as they own the property. I'm looking for a rental currently and really do not want to live in a house that's had pets, particularly dogs. There are too many owners who let their dogs wee/shit on the carpets, don't bother with flea treatments, don't bathe them etc etc. Makes me heave. I wouldn't trust landlords to do a proper 'deep clean' even if they have charged the previous tenant for it.
Why do pet owners not allow for the fact that some people have serious allergies or simply do not want to live in a house that's had animals in it?

Prerapher · 14/05/2022 11:26

Thanks for all the responses, it's good to see the love he whole picture from all angles, there's one thing I would like to say to the 'anti dog' responders on here though, my sister rents out a property in London (it's far too big and expensive for me in case you wonder why I don't rent from her !) when her last tenant moved out she had to completely decorate a downstairs room because their little boy had been using it as a giant canvas for his crayoning, another tenant managed to push something through a glass window, smash a large marble tile in the bathroom and wreck an entire wooden floor in the lounge with his 'floor polishing' antics, which then needed to be completely 'resurfaced', her current tenants have lived there for three years with a cocker poo and after giving notice have left the place immaculate, so please don't tar us all with the same brush 😁. Maybe a little pragmatism is in order here please.

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Pheonixgirl · 14/05/2022 11:27

Sorry few typos at the beginning but it won't let me edit them 😂

Dobbysgotthesocks · 14/05/2022 11:32

TizerorFizz · 14/05/2022 11:00

@Dobbysgotthesocks
You seem to forget that the landlord owns the property. I’ve had great tenants mostly. I don’t want the expense of pets scratching carpets and wood floors. It might be seen as wear and tear and folks living their lives but it’s at my expense. My houses had small gardens. They were not suitable for a dog. They didn’t have cat flaps. Few cats live inside. I’ve said no pets due to the destruction I saw next door. It’s very difficult to get money from tenants to pay for mess. They dispute it and it takes forever with photos needed etc.

I prefer an agent to handle the letting and let them do the photos and inspections. But landlords do have very tight legislation concerning tenants and their rights. I’ve sold one property and I’ll be selling my other one when the tenants leave. It is too much hassle unless it’s your business. For me, other investments can make more money.

@TizerorFizz then invest your money elsewhere! The only reason people like you don't accept pets is because it gives you some perverse sense of control! It gives me the utter rage!

Who the hell are you to think you have the right to dictate how someone else lives their lives??? Just because you were blessed with the good fortune to be able to invest in property. If you don't want to have the risk of damage then don't let property out. Rental properties are peoples homes in case you have forgotten!!!

SunnyLobelia · 14/05/2022 11:38

I am a landlord. Our contracts that were originally a cut and paste job by the real estate agents always had as standard the no pet clause. After we were directly asked by a tenant we agreed to their dog (and parrot) and then we requested that the standard clause be replaced with a 'pets to be agreed' clause.

With the grand exception of 1 single set of tenants since 2004 all our tenants have had pets. All have had dogs. We request that any damage is made good. IME pets cause less damage than children and usually people are so pleased that we agree to them that they wish to stay on and also take care of the property. We have literally never had an issue with it. My stance is that a house is meant to be lived in. I am so bloody grateful that people rent my house that I will do what I can to ensure they feel comfortable.

easyday · 14/05/2022 11:41

Listings probably automatically say no pets, so ask.

SunnyLobelia · 14/05/2022 11:41

Oh and we do not charge more for pets. Just have a clause that any damage is fixed. Only thing we ever had is that one of the dogs was a puppy and they put in baby gates that damaged the paint. The tenants asked us what colour paint the walls were so they could fix it and we told them it was such a small job we thought we'd just do it and not to worry about it!

Cyw2018 · 14/05/2022 12:21

Dobbysgotthesocks · 14/05/2022 11:32

@TizerorFizz then invest your money elsewhere! The only reason people like you don't accept pets is because it gives you some perverse sense of control! It gives me the utter rage!

Who the hell are you to think you have the right to dictate how someone else lives their lives??? Just because you were blessed with the good fortune to be able to invest in property. If you don't want to have the risk of damage then don't let property out. Rental properties are peoples homes in case you have forgotten!!!

But it's not that simple. In the current rental market where there are multiple applicants for every property then they landlord has to choose. If they have two applicants with similar qualities then why would the landlord choose the prospective tenants with a dog, it does not make business sense, and being a landlord is a business, like it or not. Landlords aren't leaving their properties empty by excluding pets, they are just letting to someone else who needs a house to live in.

The only way around it is a rental industry with an excess of properties, so landlords can't be picky, but tightening rental rules excessively, pushes some landlords to sell and thus exacerbates the problem.

And I say this as a landlord who has let to a family with a dog (and previous tenants had a dog too).

TizerorFizz · 14/05/2022 13:29

@Dobbysgotthesocks
Who the hell em I? The person with a nice property that I let out. I don’t ever see the regents and I don’t exert control. However it is my right to say what I want with regard to
my property. You will find fewer and fewer private landlords in the market and prices will go up even more. I’m happy enough to sell
up. If vast numbers of private LLs think the same, the future will be dire for renters. We all know the government won’t build homes. Luckily I’ve mostly had very decent people renting and they don’t ruin anything and I feel
rhry respect it’s someone else’s property. I wouldn’t want to let out to you.

TizerorFizz · 14/05/2022 13:29

Regents??? Tenants.

MarieG10 · 14/05/2022 15:59

treet · 14/05/2022 09:28

We rented temporarily with three cats for a year, last year- we found that the best approach was to talk to the estate agent directly rather than just look for the adverts. Build confidence: if you come across as responsible and agree to pay for any damage and return it to the state you found it in (as you should anyway as tenants) they will be happier.

If you can afford it maybe ask if they would be happy to accept extra a month to include the dog? Another £10 or £20 extra will help to ease any concerns!

Generally we found that property companies/ landlords with several houses were more relaxed/ more amenable to accepting pets as they had usually already done it before or knew that in the scheme of things its not a major problem.

Some rentals have 20 off people competing for them. Landlords can pick and chose so don't feel pressured to take tenants with let's

WombatChocolate · 14/05/2022 16:50

Numerous LLs have had tenants with pets that caused damage far in excess of the deposit. They were consequently out of pocket.

Thus is why some LLs won’t take pets. It is pretty impossible to tell which tenants’ pets will cause damage and which won’t. It is a lottery. Damage can be far in excess of deposits so LLs pay out of own pocket.

To those suggesting all LLs should take pets, do you think it’s acceptable that the LL who takes pets can face bigger repair and cleaning bills than the deposit, plus all of the hassle of sorting it out - often longer void periods whilst the damage is sorted out. It is impossible to chase tenants for amounts beyond the deposit, before anyone says they should charge whatever it takes.

to individual tenants with pets, YOURS might be fab and no trouble at all. BUT how can a LL know this? If they’ve had bad experiences before or heard about them, can you understand the issue?

I personally know a tenant who had a dog that chewed the skirting boards and bottoms of doors and the edges of carpets. Total cost to repair apparently according to her (told by LL) was £3.8k. The deposit was £1200. Clearly the tenant I know lost all her deposit and expected to. She didn’t expect to pay beyond that, plus didn’t have any money to pay with anyway. This happens fairly regularly.

Personally, if an existing tenant asked about a pet, I’d consider it. If a new tenant wanted a hamster or similar I’d consider it. If someone wanted a cat or dog, it would be ‘no’ for flats without private gardens and which have communal spaces. Possibly for a marionette or a house.

Regarding higher rents, tenants need to appreciate that what you’re paying for isnt just a bit of extra cleaning at the end, but also those risks of damage which can be astronomical.

I get that it’s hard being a tenant and pets bring great joy. But people forget the cost impliacations for LLs. Because someone is a LL, there is zero onus on them to subsidise damage, redecorating and void costs which result from pets. Some people take the view that because LLs already have their own property (where they can have pets) and the rental is an extra income they owe tenants all kinds of things which make the rental unviable, as some kind of social service to tenants who don’t own. No. They must offer a service they can provide and then make sure they deliver what people have paid for. If they think pets aren’t appropriate for the property or the risks are too big, like any business decision, they shouldn’t make it.

As others say, if LLs are forced to do things which mean they lose money on their properties, more will sell. One of the reasons for rising rents is lots have sold already so supply is less and rents rising. But often people can’t see the connection. Of course there should be regulation, but it has to be sensible and practical and everyone needs to understand LLs rent out to make money. People might not like the fact that not everyone owns or the UK rental market, but must understand that LLs will always be wary of tenants or pets etc that have additional risks…it’s logical!

TizerorFizz · 14/05/2022 17:01

@WombatChocolate
That is exactly the problem. Well said.

HowIsItMarchAlready · 16/05/2022 14:37

Some posters are hell bent on not seeing things from the LL's position, to stick fingers in their ears and shout 'but it's our HOME!' Sure it's your home, but it's the LL's property, it's their business, it's their income. If a tenant is a risk (because of a pet and increased wear and tear for example), the LL has every right under the sun to turn them down. Especially at a time such as now where demand for rental properties is very high. If a tenant doesn't like the rules attached to a rental property, they can look elsewhere. Nobody is forcing them to rent a place with a 'no pet' rule. So just like a PP said 'LLs can't tell me what to do in my home,' you can't tell LLs what they can and cannot do with their businesses.

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