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Does anyone have a saniflo toilet/bathroom?

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 26/03/2022 10:16

If so do you have a shower or just toilet? Was it easy/not too expensive?
Thanks

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WhatAWasteOfOranges · 26/03/2022 10:19

We got rid of a saniflo toilet in the house we just bought and replaced it with a proper one under the guidance of a competent plumber.
The saniflo we had was very loud and I believe the previous owners had lots of issues with it

WombatChocolate · 26/03/2022 12:37

We have one. It is in a loft en-suite. Had the whole en-suite fitted about 6 years ago. Never had any trouble with it. It is a guest room/ just loo used perhaps once a day. Shower used perhaps 6 times a year - less during Covid.

Shower is on a pump and very good. Drains fine.

For a shower plus basin and loo you need SaniPlus or SaniPro. Therese are the ones with multiple outlet/inlets for numerous appliances.

It is quite noisy, we have the Saniflo unit behind a stud wall in the eaves, along with the loo cistern. This makes it a bit quieter. We’ve never had a blockage and have a small sign saying ‘loo roll and natural waste only. Macerator loo - will block if anything else is put down’. Has done the job so far.

Meant we now have 2 loos, which for a family is very useful.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 26/03/2022 12:38

Thanks! That's what I need, a little guest toilet and shower.

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WombatChocolate · 26/03/2022 12:38

I think we paid about £5k for the building if the room and the plumbing and shower room fittings. It was part of a loft conversion. Saniflo unit itself was about £600.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 26/03/2022 16:27

Fab, that's about what I was thinking as it needs a new room building as well as bathroom fitting. Was it easy to attach to existing pipes? That's the bit I don't really get.

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VeniVidiWeeWee · 26/03/2022 21:11

Please see below. Also, search for Pigletjohn's opinion.

This was written on another website, if you still want one after reading this, go ahead. :LOL:

Sell the house, failing that give it away, if that doesn't work pay
someone to take it or burn it down.

To give you a clue - these ghastly instruments of the Devil are
French. Add the French and lavatorial engineering - now see why I
say get out while you can. Moreover this particular Frenchman was a
lunatic with strong Anglophobic tendancies and a bad case of
coprophilia.

I am quite sure the designer was also an ex-submariner Frenchman who
missed the strangled screams of seamen who had got the valve sequence
wrong in the submarines toilet and just been rinsed down with a few
gallons of seawater (and the recently donated contents of the bowl).

They break down at the slightest opportunity. The only thing you can
actually guarantee about them is that they will break down - very
frequently.

Basically the only way of maintaining the slightest semblance of
serviceability is to impose on pain of repair the same rules as for a
small yachts sea toilet - if it hasn't passed through you it doesn't
go in the bowl.

They have an interesting design. The motor has poor starting torque
and the macerator lots of tiny teeth. Ergo anything that has strands
in it catches on the teeth and stops the motor from starting. Things
with strands include anything with cotton wool (including cotton wool
buds) and anything with cloth. Females in particular must not be
allowed anywhere near these devices. If you were unfortunate enough
to have the added misery of a sink (oh dear - you were) then add
hair, strands from wooly pullovers and almost anything else thats at
all fibrous.

When they break (which they will - that's an absolute certainty)
their endearing characteristic is that you are left with a bowl full
of whatever which you have to empty back the way it came and more
importantly many feet of 40mm pipe still full of minced whatever.
When you disconnect the pipe I'll give you one guess where its going
to go. Repairing or unblocking them is the most thoroughly revolting
job.

Now to get to specifics - the pulsing is a fault in either
installation or the pressure switch. Does it pulse with just the
cold water tap running from the sink? The way they work is a low
pressure trip switch switches on the motor when the small holding
tank is full. This tank remains partially full all the time. If its
pulsing either the switch has too low a hysterisis or water isn't
getting into it fast enough. The motor should remain on for a few
seconds after everything has emptied so that pulsing you are seeing
shouldn't be happening.

As the failure rate of these diabolical things is worse than that of
a F104 Starfighter I'd suggest you get the installer back (preferably
to remove it forever). If it was installed by yourself then self
flaggelation with a few lengths of barbed wire and a call to the
Saniflo people might be in order.

Also, my system is a Sanitop with the outflow from a washbasin going
into the top of the unit. I find that running the tap for a few seconds
activates the Saniflow. Is there any way of adjusting the sensitivity of
it so that it will only run when a reasonable amount of water has gone
into the unit.

No, but if its oversensitive this might be related to the pulsing you
are seeing.

I dont see why the washbasin water cant just bypass the
cutter/pump internally.

Because these horrors are designed to be installed pumping upwards -
the raving idiot who designed them thought it would be pretty neat to
have something you could stick in a downstairs cloakroom and run the
pipe upwards to join the soil stack in the bathroom. If that's how
your installation goes cut out the selling the house bit - just burn
it now. When it fails there is 10ft of pressurised whatsit just
waiting for that final turn on the drainpipe.

The other reason the sink must go through the pump is that the outlet
of the thing is at some pressure. Connect the sink a bit downstream
and every time you pull the chain the contents of the loo make a
pretty little fountain out of the sink plughole (I've seen one
plumbed like that - the owner kept a sandbag in the sink on top of
the plug).

Some models have an interesting feature - on the top is a reset
switch, under the top cover is a screwdriver slot on the top of the
motor drive shaft to allow you to clear the (frequent) blockages.
However to get the top cover open to get at the drive shaft to free
it - you've guessed - you have to disconnect the drain pipe.

How they can be called Saniflow when they are anything but sanitary
(as you will soon find out) and rarely flow is beyond me.

As I said - sell the house.

Suggestives · 26/03/2022 22:29

If it's for occasional use fine but I wouldn't recommend for any reasonably regular use. You'll have no problem getting one installed but good luck getting anyone to fix it when it fails (and they are designed to fail), for all the reasons stated in the previous post.

TheFabulousSamathaJones · 26/03/2022 22:36

We have one in an en suite. We’ve had it 15 years. It works fine as long as you only put human waste and paper down it.

Our en suite layout in the house means only a a Saniflo would fit as there’s only a small waste pipe.

It has only broken when either someone has put wipes down it or, once when we used to not flush it at night that eroded a part.

Now I know all this I’d have one again .

areallthenamesusedup · 26/03/2022 23:16

Hi. Had a couple. Important thing is to get it installed properly. Get a Sani flow expert. A lot of plumbers won't touch them. And most plumbers have not installed them so get an expert.

If you get gradient and pipe width correct at the start you should be fine for an occasional use bathroom.

There is an official saniflo website....I'd start there.

DalarnaHorses · 26/03/2022 23:38

I wouldn't if you can avoid it. Our ensuite is a Saniflo - shower, sink and loo are connected to it. It's 11yrs old and currently broken again, can't afford to have it fixed at the moment. We never put anything down it that shouldn't be there, twice it has backed up and we've had sewage pouring through the kitchen ceiling. Once we were away on holiday and it dripped into the kitchen for 2weeks as the cistern inlet wasn't cutting out, and the saniflo pump failed. It's fitted behind the toilet into the walls, the tiles are damaged as we've had it out through the access hatch so many times.

If that wasn't bad enough, no local plumber will touch them, so we have to bring in an expensive expert.

WhatAWasteOfOranges · 27/03/2022 11:51

Pay more now to have it a proper toilet/ en-suite…
Not worth it!

PigletJohn · 27/03/2022 20:13

vom vom Envy Envy (not envy)

for a more hygenic and reliable arrangement, dig a deep hole in the garden and use a bucket.

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 27/03/2022 20:25

We had two saniflos in our house. Both broke. We have replaced them with great difficulty with proper toilets.

I would NEVER buy a house with a saniflo. Even if that meant I only had one loo. My parents periodically talk about putting one in so they have a downstairs toilet. So far I’ve managed to dissuade them. At the very least it’s somewhat embarrassing to lecture every woman of child bearing age on the importance of only flushing bodily waste/loo paper. Particularly when you have 3 teenage girls.

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