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Considering a loft conversion - Shouldn't do it really, but need an extra room!

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KStockHERO · 28/02/2022 11:23

We are rapidly outgrowing our house. But we're not able to move for a while (potentially up to eight years).

We live in a 3-bedroom Victorian terrace so a loft conversion would be pretty straightforward and would give us an additional room.

But there are several reasons why we shouldn't do a loft conversion:

  • house re-roofed and loft insulated about four years ago
  • house completely decorated in 2020, still looking pristine
  • back garden (well, yard) landscaped and planted up in 2021, still looking pristine
  • several neighbours say they can't regulated the temperature of their loft conversions - too hot in summer/too cold in winter

But the draw of an additional room is very tempting.

Please tell me your experiences of loft conversions (having the actual work done, and then living with them). I need to decide once and for all Grin Thank you!

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3luckystars · 28/02/2022 11:26

None of those things would be an obstacle for me. A lot of my neighbours have their attic converted, it took 3 weeks and had no impact on the rest of the house or garden afterwards.

3luckystars · 28/02/2022 11:26

Get air conditioning.

KStockHERO · 28/02/2022 11:54

That's interesting, thank you. And three weeks isn't much time at all.

But I feel like it surely must have had an impact on the house/garden.

I mean if they're sticking scaffolding up in the garden then they're going to make a right mess.

And if they're putting in a new staircase (albeit from above), that's got to impact on the rest of the house with dust etc.

Stop trying to talk me into it!

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sparklyponies · 28/02/2022 12:00

Unless you're having ceilings lowered etc, it only affects the room the staircase is going in. And even then it's pretty much dust rather than damage.
Scaffolding / roofing leaves a mess, but it cleans up, it doesn't damage anything.

I love mine. It's the favourite room in the house. And you might find that you don't need to move again...

Flapjak · 28/02/2022 12:11

We had to decorate hall, additional carpet, repainting to match . So there can be additional costs, dissaray. And it took several months rather than 8 weeks. So you do need to be careful who you go with

KStockHERO · 28/02/2022 12:25

@Flapjak Did your builders come from above?

I'd imagined that they'd work from above, only really touching the rest of the house when they 'break through' to put the additional staircase in.

@sparklyponies I think we'd still be looking to move in about 8-10 years. So I'm mainly looking at a loft conversion to tide us over for those years, kind of as a temporary fix before we can move.

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RandomMess · 28/02/2022 12:44

Do you really truly need the extra room? What for? Or is it just a nice to have?

How much do you think this loft conversion will cost?

MrsMoastyToasty · 28/02/2022 12:48

The roof tiles can be reused. (We had our roof retiled as soon as we moved in- you could see daylight - then had an extension built 4 years later. They reused the tiles that were stripped off.)

SBAM · 28/02/2022 12:56

We bought a house with the conversion already done, so no idea of the mess/logistics, but I can see that temperature would be an issue. It is cool up there in winter (but not freezing) but it gets unbearable in hot weather. We’ve had air conditioning fitted because otherwise it’s uncomfortably warm to sleep up there in summer.

GlumyGloomer · 28/02/2022 12:59

What sort of loft conversion? With a dormer comes the hassel of a flat roof. It has to be declared on insurance, replaced every 15 years or so and as I have just discovered can be torn completely off in the event of a cyclone. Ours also has reduced ceiling hight so if any of you are especially tall that might be an issue.
That said the space is absolutely invaluable to us so worth all the drawbacks. We didn't have it done ourselves so can't comment on that.
But,

GlumyGloomer · 28/02/2022 12:59

No idea where the random 'but' came from...

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 28/02/2022 14:37

We paid for our daughter's loft conversion. She had a 'surprise' pregnancy and really wanted her children to have a bedroom each.

You need to contact professionals with regards to building regulations and submit your plans.

She took up her entrance hall, stair and landing carpet as they were fairly new.

The builder put some type of sheeting down and hoovered up any extra mess every day. She had a small skip on her drive for the four/five weeks they were there.

There was extra dust throughout the house. This was cleaned regularly. The scaffolding at the back of no the house did no damage whatsoever.

The builder's went into the house through the roof initially and kept going in through the front door to a minimum.

There were some days when they asked if she could go out during the day (she came to our house for the day). I think this was when the stairs went in.

She now has a large bedroom and en-suite so that the children can have a bedroom each (now a 4 bedroom property).

The windows open for ventilation in summer. The room is warm in winter. There's a radiator in the bedroom and one in the en-suite. It's her favourite room and she loves to go to bed early to spend time in there. She has lots of storage around the room (floor height) and a walk in wardrobe. There are lights which come on when she opens the storage doors.

The only negative thing is - the weather. Because there's no loft above her, she hears the wind and rain more. These recent storms have been particularly noisy.

She obviously had to decorate the new rooms and stairs. She matched the carpet the best she could to the rest of the house. There was some damage to bedroom ceilings which was touched up. She redecorated her old landing and stairs and entrance hall and had her old carpet refitted at the same time as her new carpet. She had to have all her doors in the house replaced with fire doors and these had to be painted.

The house was under 5 years old at the time and she needed permission from the house builder to alter it. She had submitted plans to the council for Building Regulations and this was signed off shortly after completing the conversion.

Within a couple of days of completion the scaffolding was down and the skip gone. She did a good spring clean of the house from top to bottom and now the house and garden are as they were before - she has a lovely home now.

You have to break eggs to make an omelette - so there will be a little disruption and dust along the way.

I'd go for a conversion - you might decide you don't want to move in the future. Her house feels much more spacious now. She says she'll never sell.

KStockHERO · 01/03/2022 09:49

Thanks for all your responses.

@RandomMess We don't strictly need another room but it'd be very useful. We're looking at moving house in 6-8 years which will get us extra space (an additional bedroom most likely). An extra room in our current house would be useful until we can move.
I have absolutely no idea how much it'd cost. I obviously wouldn't want to spend over-the-odds but I wouldn't be looking to do it on too tight a budget. I've seen different figures from £5K right up to £50K for a house like ours.

@GlumyGloomer Yes, a conversion with a dormer. Neither of us are especially tall Grin

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RandomMess · 01/03/2022 10:28

I would just consider whether not spending the money means you could move house sooner.

If you don't do it as a proper habitable room with building regs etc it may cause you issues when selling.

KStockHERO · 01/03/2022 10:36

@RandomMess

I would just consider whether not spending the money means you could move house sooner.

If you don't do it as a proper habitable room with building regs etc it may cause you issues when selling.

Oh we'd most definitely do it to regulations to save massive headaches when we do come to sell.

Doing/not doing, spending/not spending the loft conversion doesn't really impact on how quickly we can move. It's not finances keeping us in our current house. I hate vagueness on MN so full disclosure - we're not moving house because of our dog Blush. So when I say we're looking to move in 6-8 years, that basically means once the dog has gone to heaven Grin Blush

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ukborn · 01/03/2022 11:07

You're not going to get it done for £5k. I live in a mid terrace with two bedrooms one box room and converted loft makes another en suite bedroom. It was done before I moved in, but my neighbours have permission to do theirs. It will add about 300sq ft and with a dormer will cost £70k up, depending on finish. They will work from above and break through towards the end. They will lose water a few times during the build but it won't be too disruptive, though it's never nice having builders in! 8 weeks is realistic timescale but could take longer.

RandomMess · 01/03/2022 11:09

Well is it bad that I keep hoping our neighbour moves into a care home sooner rather than later so we can have a secure garden for our indoor cats Blush

KStockHERO · 01/03/2022 12:33

@ukborn

You're not going to get it done for £5k. I live in a mid terrace with two bedrooms one box room and converted loft makes another en suite bedroom. It was done before I moved in, but my neighbours have permission to do theirs. It will add about 300sq ft and with a dormer will cost £70k up, depending on finish. They will work from above and break through towards the end. They will lose water a few times during the build but it won't be too disruptive, though it's never nice having builders in! 8 weeks is realistic timescale but could take longer.
Oh I know, £5K is ridiculously low. I was just giving an idea of the kind of figures being thrown around.

I'm kind of used to having builders in, having done the whole of the rest of the house. But it's been nice not to have any tradesmen for the last couple of years. Why am I actively trying to get them back?!?!?!

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TheCanyon · 01/03/2022 12:47

Ah c'mon, you need to now tell us why you aren't moving because of the dog? I'm just away to ask mine if he fancies moving Grin

KStockHERO · 01/03/2022 13:32

@TheCanyon

Ah c'mon, you need to now tell us why you aren't moving because of the dog? I'm just away to ask mine if he fancies moving Grin
We adopted my dog a few years back. She'd been treated appallingly as a puppy farm breeding bitch. This wasn't a backstreet operation - the breeder was very, very well-known and reputable.

Anyhow, because of her treatment early in life, it took her a long time to feel comfortable here and to learn to trust us. Even now, she's very anxious and nervous of new places and surroundings. She would, I think, eventually settle into a new home. But it would take a really, really long time and I don't want to disrupt the trust she's built up in us, her home and her routine.

So, we're staying put Grin

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RandomMess · 01/03/2022 13:42

Could you buy your new place now and have it as a buy to let for a few years first? Or buy a cheap place to do up?

Or just form some other sort of project to keep you busy 🤣

KStockHERO · 01/03/2022 13:46

Oh no, you've identified that I'm clearly on the hunt for a new project Blush

After spending so many years doing up our current house, I am kind of itching for another project. MAKE ME STOP!!

We've thought about getting a bigger place as a buy-to-let now so its ready for when we're ready to move. We're still toying with this. But it doesn't solve our current space issue - that we don't have enough of it. Unless I ask the tenants in our buy-to-let if I can rent the box room back from them for all our over-spill shite Grin

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RandomMess · 01/03/2022 14:10

Perhaps your next project should be decluttering and minimalist living?

Or buy a van and turn it into a camper as a project?

WutheringHeights66 · 01/03/2022 19:26

Mine had almost zero impact and I had a truss roof. Since I didn’t have a dormer and only velux,, no scaffolding required and no impact on the garden. The staircase went over my existing staircase and the contractors cleaned up exceptionally well. The plasterers were the worst, they were really shitty and didn’t put protective sheets on the floor but insist on that before they start. Afterwards I needed a full hall, stairs (two flights) and landing decorating which cost about two grand, but that was it.

It was genuinely stress free.

Other than those plasterers.

Mine cost 16k about 16 years ago, no dormer, truss roof, steel beams had to be craned in, no bathroom or toilet, just a simple double bedroom with two velux and it’s own staircase, fire doors and mains fire alarms.

JudyGemstone · 01/03/2022 22:48

I’m getting mine done in May, we desperately need the space and a second bathroom as there’s 4 of us in a small terrace. Builders reckon about 6-8 weeks, hopefully without too much disruption to the rest of the house. It has already been converted into a room but not been done to regs, plus we’re putting a dormer in so basically the same price as starting from scratch.

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