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House Sale - roof leak

17 replies

Shortperson · 30/12/2021 21:53

Hi there

Just need some advice please.

I’ve agreed to sell my house (it;s very old but il’ve done lots of work in it - on my own) to sellers who’ve been absolutely lovely to me. They’ve agreed to wait until my house purchase goes through. We are at contracts stage,, I’ve signed the contracts for my sale, purchase contracts and it;’s ready for exchange in a couple of weeks. The TR1 has been signed for the sale - it’s all ready to go. The buyers are very keen to move in asap. The seller wants to move quickly too. I could honestly say that, at the time of signing there were no problems with any leaks.

I decided to sell as I’m just not settled. It was a mistake to leave my roots and I;m hoping to move back.

My buyers totally fell in love the house and paid full price - I couldn’t ask for more reasonable buyers. I bought the house over a year ago, spent every every penny I had, working evenings and weekends on the garden and house and it does look good. It was a year long commitment just working and renovating.

I had a survey done when I bought the house and I did all of the work needed to make the house sellable, damp proof course, electrics completely renovated it. The survey did flag up possible roof problems but my seller knew of this and paid towards repairs by a roofer - new felt - I thought it was solved. The roofer did say that if I got another leak I’d need a new roof. I had the ceilings re plastered , boxed pipes in, stripped the old pine floors, and renewed the bathrooms. I’d had no further leaks from the roof. It was spring/summer though.

The buyers asked to see my survey but I’d lost it in the house move and so I gave all the details of what work had to be done via the solicitor and sent all the invoices and guarantees to the buyers. I assumed that they’d ask for a survey but as it was a recent one they decide not to bother with their own. This surprised me to be honest. I’d told them about the roof repairs, damp proof course, electrics etc.

I was very honest about everything but it’s an old house - 1749 - I thought I’d dealt with every potential problem. The roofer had been several times to deal with various leaks but I thought once the plastering was done - all would be okay.

We should exchange in a couple of weeks and complete soon after - my new home is a new build and empty.

There’s been lots of rain and the old leaks have come back in one ceiling and under a dormer window. The house does need the roof replacing. It’s one small patch in the dining room, small patch in the bathroom and some stains under the dormer window.

I’ve spent all my money to get my new home and cannot lose this sale. I’ve managed to disguise the patches but they MAY come back - depending on wind direction…it’s very unpredictable.

If I come clean with the buyers they will either pull out - they’ve been very patient or ask for a reduction and then I cannot go ahead with my purchase and move back with my family.

I know once the contracts are exchanged it’s done and if I didn’t say about the leaks what would happen? The thing is I know about them now but not when I signed back in the summer months.

It’s only very minor leaks but It’s a sign of future problems.

OP posts:
Dinosauraddict · 31/12/2021 21:03

You really need to declare these new post-offer leaks!

whyohwhyohwhyohwhywhy · 31/12/2021 21:43

Signed what?
If you haven't exchanged then you haven't sold the house. Nothing is signed

Sorry. That sounds crap.

Didiusfalco · 31/12/2021 22:58

Anyone who hasn’t fully surveyed and budgeted for a 1749 house is daft. I would honestly just leave it. This is what surveys are for.

Thepineapplemystery · 01/01/2022 11:13

After sale, there's the potential for them to come back to you and Sue. It doesn't often happen but if they can evidence you knew about the leaks (and disguising them is evidence) it is possible.

You'd be a fool to continue the sale and not declare it.

sunshinesupermum · 01/01/2022 18:25

They haven't had a full survey done! I'd say caveat empor then.

onedayoranother · 01/01/2022 21:33

It is caveat emptor but could you really do that? You say the buyers have been patient. You knew the problems with the roof. Yes it's up to them to have a survey but you KNOW that there are issues. I couldn't do that on moral grounds. I'd find out how much the repair or replacement is, let them know and be prepared to cover half the cost.

user1493494961 · 01/01/2022 21:49

They should have had a survey.

Geneticsbunny · 02/01/2022 14:48

If it is an old house with an old roof and they have decided not to have a survey then they probably expect to have to repair the roof soon and will have budgeted for this in their offer. If I were you I would get the leaks patch repaired again though.

LIZS · 02/01/2022 14:53

They would be very naive not to have a structural survey on such an old house. Is it listed?

SwedishEdith · 02/01/2022 15:03

I'd get someone to patch up the roof as well. Something similar happened to us just before sale (to the loveliest buyer you could dream of) with our boiler. I got it patched up so it still worked but it was 25 years old - needed to be replaced anyway, same as your roof.

Thepineapplemystery · 02/01/2022 19:07

And they may well still have a survey. Personally it's the first thing I do, but for others they wait until further down the line.

Kshhuxnxk · 02/01/2022 19:22

I can't believe anyone would need to ask the question about what to do. Maybe if people were honest and upfront the world would be a much better place. If you decide to say nothing well then I hope the roof in the house you're buying doesn't need replaced but the sellers kept quiet.

anotheronenow · 02/01/2022 20:55

You bought the house a year ago and you lost your survey in the move? Really? You never had an emailed copy? You couldn't go back to the surveyor and ask for a copy?

The person who sold the house to you gave you money towards roof repairs. You had some repairs done but it still needs replacing.

Instead of passing on your survey, you gave them your list of stuff that needed to be done? And they obviously trust you, so they didn't get their own survey done.

How much are you making on this house after one year of owning it?

Either way, obviously you have to tell them. How would you like to buy a house which needs a roof replacement?

We bought a house that needed one. We had it completely redecorated before it became obvious that their bullshit "repairs" and new wallpaper was designed to con us. We didn't sue them but honestly, it was a very fine line for me and I sometimes wish we had.

Sunbeams09 · 02/01/2022 22:16

As someone who bought a house that had had some bodge job repairs done on a roof that somehow got missed by the surveyor, please do tell them, we ended up in debt trying to get the roof repaired properly. We have spent many a night wondering what kind of person could do that to other people Sad however we had done the due diligence, the surveyor just somehow missed it…

Zodlebud · 02/01/2022 22:31

Just get the roof patched up so it’s not leaking any more. Anyone who buys a house that age is bonkers to not get a survey and unless they are cash buyers then most mortgage companies would surely request one for a house so old.

They may well be planning a loft conversion in the future so it would be irrelevant anyway.

As an aside, they couldn’t use your survey to argue anything as it’s not transferable - the surveyor is only accountable to the person who commissioned it.

HandlebarLadyTash · 02/01/2022 22:45

If you sell & dont mention it you wont be the first to do it. Just do what you have to do to move on with your life. You cant magic up cash if you dont have it. The ideal would be to patch it up, but a patch is just that and isnt going to last so effective throwing away money.

BurgerOnTheOrientExpress · 03/01/2022 16:09

Caveat emptor.

Just for clarity, if you buy a property and find a 'problem' you have no recourse. The buyer is not necessarily 'daft' or 'naive', they may indeed be very competent and knowledgeable of property deals; depends if they acquired it at a reasonable price.

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