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Houses selling for way over asking price

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Exasperatedhousehunter · 22/12/2021 11:20

I am trying to buy somewhere at the moment in a city that has seen ridiculous price increases and limited stock. However, the problem is not so much the prices as the fact that properties seem to be selling for way over the asking price. I have only bid on a couple so far but both times my own offer was over the asking price (not by a huge amount but a bit) yet I was told that there were others that were significantly over so obviously the sellers went with them. It's pretty frustrating because, as someone who will have a mortgage, I can't be offering massive amounts over because the bank will just refuse to lend much if they think it's overvalued. And I don't really fancy paying way over the odds for something (these are fairly modest properties I am looking at).

The other thing is that when I look at the actual sold prices for the roads I am looking at, these seem much more realistic and in line with what the house was valued at (on Zoopla, the original listing is stored so you can see what it was on for). Even ones from 2021 (the most recent ones are around September). I've only seen one sold one that's 40k over original asking price. Some are 5k or so over, many are asking price. So what happens to these sky-high offers? Do they barter it down once they get the survey? Surely EAs would warn sellers that this might happen. Or is this thing a new thing so that if I look in a couple of months once the land registry records are updated, it will look really different?

Sorry for general moan but I am feeling really fed up at the moment and as if I will never find anywhere at this rate.

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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 09:58

@missbunnyrabbit

Exactly the same in my north west town, except even the asking prices are over inflated, and then the houses are going for at least 10% over that.

My boyfriend has been looking for a house for over a year.Sad He offered 165 on a 130 house and still didn't get it!

Wow, that's awful! I can't believe he still didn't get it even though he offered so much over asking. I really hope he finds something soon - it's so depressing isn't it?
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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 10:00

@Ohwhere2021

This is the reason I’m going for new build this time
Ah, interesting. Yes, the thought of a fixed price and no messing around with haggling and gazumping sounds a dream, although I guess new builds have their own potential issues too. I have lots of friends who have gone the new build route and are really happy so I might look into it.
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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 10:04

@sheroku

I'm also in Bristol and bought a house a couple of months ago. We must have done over 30 viewings and had multiple offers rejected (including offers over asking). We ended up buying a place that had been sat on the market for ages. We offered below asking and got it. The decor was pretty old fashioned and it needs a total revamp which is maybe why it didn't sell as quick.

Bristol is a total nightmare for property though so I have sympathy. My only advice is to keep at it and not get too depressed by all the rejections. And if there is anything that's been sitting on the market for a while then see if you can do a deal, the estate agent will be desperate to get rid.

Congratulations on finding somewhere! Yes, it's a nightmare isn't it? It's made me feel lots better hearing that you had success in the end and I will definitely have a look out for places that are in need of modernisation (as long as they are habitable in the meantime). To be fair, the places where I offered on and lost out were quite 'pretty' houses with kerb appeal so probably no surprise that they went for so much over. I need to broaden my horizons a bit - after all, I won't be looking at the outside when I'm inside my house Grin.
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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 10:12

@Jasmine11

In the past month I've seen 3 houses that we lost out on best and final offers earlier on this year come onto the rental market, so I guess the sky high offers that were accepted fell through. We are in SW London/Surrey borders. I've looked at the sold prices that are trickling onto Rightmove and a few of the houses we looked at (we looked at a lot!) actually sold a little under asking price, which is weird, as for at least 2 of them I remember we didn't put in offers as at the time the estate agent had told us there were already offers over asking price. All very odd.
Interesting. My mum lives in a lovely market-town in Devon which is highly in demand and prices are sky-high (she bought hers in 1997 for 80k Grin). The house next door to hers is a 3-bed 30's semi. Nice but nothing hugely special. It went on for 500k which is extortionate as it is but the offer they got was 612k!!! A month later it fell through because the purchasers claimed it was too close to a main road (it's nowhere near a main road). I think they have now sold again for just over 500k so it wouldn't surprise me if this happens a lot. For me, unless something horrendous came up in a survey, I'd pay what I'd agreed - ie my best and final would be what I would expect to pay in the end. Not 'oh, I reckon I'll offer 350 but actually try to get it for 320 in the end'.
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wanderlove · 23/12/2021 10:12

We have hopefully finally bought a house at 10k over asking. Which was by far thr most reasonable one we offered on (maybe because no one else was prepared to take it on!). One which we offered on just went on right move sold at 75k above the asking price!

oohmama · 23/12/2021 10:20

We are trying to find a house in Bristol too!
It's fucking mental

What area are you looking at ?

I'm going to post some cards through the doors on the streets we want to live on..
Keep telling myself I've got nothing to loose!

It's a bloody Nightnare I tell ya, a gert nightmare

Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 10:32

@oohmama

We are trying to find a house in Bristol too! It's fucking mental

What area are you looking at ?

I'm going to post some cards through the doors on the streets we want to live on..
Keep telling myself I've got nothing to loose!

It's a bloody Nightnare I tell ya, a gert nightmare

Yeah, such a nightmare! I'm mainly looking at East Bristol - Fishponds, Staple Hill, bits of Kingswood, St George. Ideally somewhere where it's not too much of hassle to get out onto the M32 for commuting. How about you? Good idea about leafleting. A friend of mine did that when she was looking in Hertfordshire and she got a couple of people saying they were interested in selling, although she did get somewhere else in the end, but it's worth doing.
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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 10:38

@wanderlove

We have hopefully finally bought a house at 10k over asking. Which was by far thr most reasonable one we offered on (maybe because no one else was prepared to take it on!). One which we offered on just went on right move sold at 75k above the asking price!
Yikes, 75k over asking!! Congratulations on your purchase! 10k over asking is pretty reasonable and one of my offers was that. I just can't stretch to crazy money!

Whoever said the thing about properties sitting unsold, thank you! I have gone through and made a list of some places still unsold now and after Christmas will see if they are still available for viewing as some of them look like they have potential. I think lots of agents have gotten quite lazy now - houses seem to sell themselves and they do one open house and it's gone. If there are no offers at open house though, it often just sits there. That's what happened when I sold my place a couple of years ago. It took quite a while to shift it because the previously booming market took a downturn.

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TwoPaperAirplanes · 23/12/2021 10:39

@Exasperatedhousehunter

I am trying to buy somewhere at the moment in a city that has seen ridiculous price increases and limited stock. However, the problem is not so much the prices as the fact that properties seem to be selling for way over the asking price. I have only bid on a couple so far but both times my own offer was over the asking price (not by a huge amount but a bit) yet I was told that there were others that were significantly over so obviously the sellers went with them. It's pretty frustrating because, as someone who will have a mortgage, I can't be offering massive amounts over because the bank will just refuse to lend much if they think it's overvalued. And I don't really fancy paying way over the odds for something (these are fairly modest properties I am looking at).

The other thing is that when I look at the actual sold prices for the roads I am looking at, these seem much more realistic and in line with what the house was valued at (on Zoopla, the original listing is stored so you can see what it was on for). Even ones from 2021 (the most recent ones are around September). I've only seen one sold one that's 40k over original asking price. Some are 5k or so over, many are asking price. So what happens to these sky-high offers? Do they barter it down once they get the survey? Surely EAs would warn sellers that this might happen. Or is this thing a new thing so that if I look in a couple of months once the land registry records are updated, it will look really different?

Sorry for general moan but I am feeling really fed up at the moment and as if I will never find anywhere at this rate.

I could have written this myself. We had an offer accepted on a property on Monday that's 30k over what the house next door sold for 4 months ago, and next door is in much better condition. Yesterday the seller accepted a higher offer.

Crazy times. Like you, I'm hoping that there will be more stock in January. I'm in the NW, so it's definitely not South specific.

Paddingtonthebear · 23/12/2021 10:48

We’ve been looking since April, it’s a nightmare. The prices just keep rising. Weirdly none of the 20 houses we’ve viewed in 8 months are on the land registry yet so I can’t check their sold prices.

We had a house down valued and we managed to sort that out by switching to another lender but then the survey revealed serious damp so we pulled out (no funds left to sort damp problems!). The house went straight back on the market the next day for £10k more Confused

oohmama · 23/12/2021 11:15

Ah we used to live in st George! Moved out of Bristol for a few years but we are now moving back! Looking at north Bristol to be near family!
But it's just a nightmare, to get what we need we are going to have to spend an absolute fortune!

Are you in Bristol now?

Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 14:15

@oohmama

Ah we used to live in st George! Moved out of Bristol for a few years but we are now moving back! Looking at north Bristol to be near family! But it's just a nightmare, to get what we need we are going to have to spend an absolute fortune!

Are you in Bristol now?

I'm actually in Exeter at the moment as I am temporarily staying with family. Good luck with your house-hunt. I agree that the prices have gotten ridiculous. I used to have friends living in St Werburghs about 10 years ago and houses were crazy-cheap there but now have gone through the roof.
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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 14:21

@Paddingtonthebear

We’ve been looking since April, it’s a nightmare. The prices just keep rising. Weirdly none of the 20 houses we’ve viewed in 8 months are on the land registry yet so I can’t check their sold prices.

We had a house down valued and we managed to sort that out by switching to another lender but then the survey revealed serious damp so we pulled out (no funds left to sort damp problems!). The house went straight back on the market the next day for £10k more Confused

Yeah, I've also noticed that stuff that was sold STC in April is not on there yet, which seems like quite a long time for a sale, although maybe if there are long chains, it's not so unusual.

I don't blame you for pulling out of that one but yikes at it going on for 10k more. There was one house I saw on rightmove a couple of years ago which had languished there for ages and had the price reduced. It's now gone on for 50k more. Mad.

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Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 14:22

Hope you find something good @TwoPaperAirplanes! Things have got to change at some point I am thinking. It's just not sustainable.

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CheltenhamLady · 23/12/2021 15:49

I think a lot of houses will come back to the market because lenders won't lend up to the valuations. This has happened with two we offered on and lost.

Exasperatedhousehunter · 23/12/2021 16:44

@CheltenhamLady

I think a lot of houses will come back to the market because lenders won't lend up to the valuations. This has happened with two we offered on and lost.
Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. That's why I won't offer something that I wouldn't be able to pay. Unless all these high bidders are cash-buyers, they are going to need mortgage funding, so at some point there will be a problem. Most lenders won't lend more than 90% LTV so if I offer 350 on a 300k house and have a 70k deposit, I'd need more than 90% of the house's true value in mortgage funding.
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sheroku · 23/12/2021 19:02

Yeah, such a nightmare! I'm mainly looking at East Bristol - Fishponds, Staple Hill, bits of Kingswood, St George.

Having spent the last year and a half looking at property in Bristol, these are the areas that are super popular right now so there will be tonnes of competition unfortunately. If it's possible to broaden your search a bit it might help. Crap I know.

mugoftea456 · 23/12/2021 19:08

Mine sold recently at 30k over. We paid about the same over on the house we purchased.

It's a crazy market at the moment.

MinnieMountain · 24/12/2021 06:58

A friend is looking in Stratford-on-Avon. Everything is going for over asking price. She refuses to get into a bidding war.

Bristol friend gave up on finding a house there (she had a flat in Redland) and has ended up buying a new build in a village outside Bristol.

Jessie75 · 24/12/2021 08:18

Newbuild prices are down 6%
Id consider one of those, You can’t get builders in to look at fixing it up as anyway so the last thing you want if the bubble does burst is to be stuck in a dump that you’ve paid over the odds for and you’ve still gotta find another 40 grand to make it habitable

Exasperatedhousehunter · 24/12/2021 12:21

@Jessie75

Newbuild prices are down 6% Id consider one of those, You can’t get builders in to look at fixing it up as anyway so the last thing you want if the bubble does burst is to be stuck in a dump that you’ve paid over the odds for and you’ve still gotta find another 40 grand to make it habitable
Yeah that’s a concern and that puts me off a total fixer upper. I also don’t know if I can take the stress of managing a building project, although I don’t mind small cosmetic stuff needing done. I will do some more research into new-builds.
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Exasperatedhousehunter · 24/12/2021 12:28

@sheroku

Yeah, such a nightmare! I'm mainly looking at East Bristol - Fishponds, Staple Hill, bits of Kingswood, St George.

Having spent the last year and a half looking at property in Bristol, these are the areas that are super popular right now so there will be tonnes of competition unfortunately. If it's possible to broaden your search a bit it might help. Crap I know.

Yeah, I agree that those are super-popular areas which is why there are so many offers on all the houses. I will look at widening my search a little. There was one I viewed in St George last weekend. Needed quite a bit of work, damp patches in the attic, no garden (apart from a small bit of covered decking) and generally dark and dingy. I still reckon it will sell, probably for over asking which says it all about the market really. Fingers crossed all of us who are looking have more luck in 2022 and find our dream home!
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Hippychicken1 · 24/12/2021 16:00

@Exasperatedhousehunter I’ve just sold a house in Bristol house STC for 20k over the asking price
Had over 10 viewings and it sold within a week STC everyone who viewed it made an offer over the asking price

Its a probate property and I applied for probate before I put it up for sale emptied the house completely and cleared the garden. Cost me 1600 quid to do this but well worth it
Got probate within 7 weeks I’ve been very proactive about making sure everything my side gets done as quickly as possible

It’s a dooer upper but sound with new GCH electrics and windows - well under 5 years old
The buyers are FTB survey & valuation has been done and no problems and they have had their mortgage accepted estate agent told me this week so I am positive it will go through as they buyers have been in 3 times to measure up and stuff and are very excited .
It’s a popular area where houses only come up If someone dies 😂 my parents had the house for 50 years and no house has been up for sale for the past 5 years or so
But you can get to the train station in a10 min walk and be in London in less than 90 mins - 2hrs

Hippychicken1 · 24/12/2021 16:01

One thought where are you looking and what’s your budget pm me if you like
A friends just about to put her two bed Victorian terrace on the market in Bristol After the new year
Lovely spec with original features

Hippychicken1 · 24/12/2021 16:05

Weird about the land registry not updating stuff quickly
My parents house had a 0 charge on it as the lenders had held the deeds
I Informed them of my parents death sent them all the stuff they wanted they got it removed within 2 weeks and I got a letter from the land registry confirming that it was updated with that 0 charge removed
Took about 4 weeks in total