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1st house with problems in survey

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NoviceBuyer2022 · 17/12/2021 12:49

Hi we are buying our 1st house so really novice , also new to UK. The home buyers survey has shown some problems. Cracke in door over patio ( at rear of house) and front door and window - saying lintel flex in both places ( not sure if it means lintel failed )
Also saying flat roof over garage and extension is at end of life and needs replacing in short term
I paid a very good price for the property to take it off the market yet the survey says reasonable price
The house has some work for modernisation as well in kitchen , to install two bathrooms
I am wondering what is a good idea to buy the property at all or back off or get price reduced - slightly scared since this might be my last house or let’s say house where I age so do not want to get stuck in house if it’s not worth it
Plz advise

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TizerorFizz · 04/01/2022 11:02

@DefRight
If the walls are sagging above the windows and the lintels are “flexing” that IS a big problem. It’s expensive to lug right and should result in a discount if the house wasn’t priced to reflect this issue. It’s poor building and just the look of those windows would make me walk away. Just too ugly for a residential house. Cheap solution and it looks it. Obvuotdkg you didn’t read what I posted about such lintels.

NoviceBuyer2022 · 05/01/2022 17:25

Thanks @TizerorFizz I read it but tbh I could not see the staircase cracks as shown in pic in this house’s pics and now reading also not sure how to see if walls are sagging
Be it my eyesight or lack of experience, do the walls look sagging in the pics I have posted ?

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TizerorFizz · 05/01/2022 21:00

If a lintel is “flexing” it is not supporting the wall as it should. No, you cannot see anything but it’s not a situation you should accept. If a steel had been used, there should not be flexing. Ask yourself if you have seen lintels like this in houses? Have a look around the neighbourhood.

You could ask a structural engineer for a second opinion.

NoviceBuyer2022 · 15/01/2022 12:52

Thank you all for all the advice so far
Quick update
We went back to seller’s agent following the advice of politely putting up facts reducing the price by 40k . Some back and forth and we finally settled for us getting 20k reduced after sharing survey evidences of issues
Though this does not cover all quote for the repairs but is indeed a better situation than earlier
Thank you all again

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saleorbouy · 15/01/2022 13:47

You need to assess whether the survey is things that need to be done or could be done.
From my understanding the flat roof is not showing signs of leaking but is towards the latter part of it's life, not unusual for flat roofs as they are 20year life span. I wouldn't worry about this and budget for renewal in next 3 years.
As for the lintels you will get sagging above UPVC due to their instability (expansion/contraction) in weather. If you are likely to replace the windows soon then is it an issue especially as the surveyor sees no immediate structural implications.
Replace the windows and do the lintel work at the same time as it will be cheaper.
Surveys have a habit of flagging up things that often are just run of the mill items.
Buildings age and if you are buying an old property not everything is going to be new and perfect. Maintenance will be required and it is not up to the vendors to offer a "perfect" home.
Don't get sucked into worrying about smaller issues and asking for money off the value for non structural issues.
If houses were to be presented "as new" then this would be a major headache for period property owners.
Small cracks internal or external and nothing to worry about.

TizerorFizz · 15/01/2022 18:42

@saleorbouy
You do not get sagging in correctly designed steel lintels due to weather! Or indeed above them. These are concrete lintels in this house and the windows are upvc so it’s not an old part of this building. It’s just shoddy and thd lintels are not fit for purpose. No sagging of any windows (or above lintels) should be tolerated. It is showing up that there is a problem. Concrete is affected by weather and that’s exactly why it shouldn’t be used. No weather should affect how well windows fit either. If properly fitted they are secure. The OP isn’t buying a period house. Just one where the owner cut corners.

@NoviceBuyer2022
Well done for getting £20k reduction. That will go some way to repairing the defects. When people buy houses, it’s perfectly possible to buy a near perfect one. Mine would be if we sell. It varies between 180 years old and 12 years old. We don’t do anything on the cheap and we maintain well. If others don’t then they lose out on price.

Gingerish · 16/01/2022 11:45

Well done getting the reduction in price. What works did you eventually include in the 40k?

NoviceBuyer2022 · 13/04/2022 15:54

Hi sorry missed replying to the questions . We included pictures from survey to reflect lintel issue, cracks in multiple places inside and outside brickwork , blown plaster , ponding and vegetation on flat roof amongst other decoration issues.

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