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Heating engineers/plumbers - smart thermostat help

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ineedaholidayandwine · 05/10/2021 13:41

Hi, can you suggest a smart thermostat? We have a combi boiler and wet under floor heating. We want to control them both separately so assume need 2 thermostats? and be able to have a phone app in which we can see and set both schedules.
Hive has been suggested as a good one, we had Nest in the old house for heating which we loved but have read it can't control heating and UFH separately....
Currently have a Heatmiser for UFH which we hate, pain to programme, have a standard Honeywell thermostat for the heating.

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ineedaholidayandwine · 07/10/2021 20:42

Anyone?

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Didyousaysomethingdarling · 07/10/2021 20:58

Bump

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ineedaholidayandwine · 07/10/2021 21:10

Thank you Smile

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saleorbouy · 07/10/2021 21:39

Are you running only UFC off the boiler or UFC and conventional radiators?

Ecthelion · 07/10/2021 22:26

Hive will work if you get a second multizone one.

Do you have one of the smart Heatmiser thermostats or standard at the moment? Wired or wireless? I have a Heatmiser Neo smart thermostat and it's fairly easy to control using the app. If you already have the UH8-RF wireless wiring centre then it's an easy swap.

Sunflowergirl1 · 08/10/2021 06:03

You really need the Hive/Tado type with as you say 2 controls. May be worth getting some of the radiators with the associated wifi controlled thermostatic valves.

Frankly we looked at it (similar set up to you) and was over £500. As we have a very predictable day it just wasn't worth it.

If you don't know when you might be home and have a varied timetable it would be worth it...but in my experience wireless products quickly can become unrealisable and when there is a power cut can need resetting

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ineedaholidayandwine · 08/10/2021 08:20

@saleorbouy

Are you running only UFC off the boiler or UFC and conventional radiators?
Both the under floor heating and the radiators
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ineedaholidayandwine · 08/10/2021 08:21

@Ecthelion

Hive will work if you get a second multizone one.

Do you have one of the smart Heatmiser thermostats or standard at the moment? Wired or wireless? I have a Heatmiser Neo smart thermostat and it's fairly easy to control using the app. If you already have the UH8-RF wireless wiring centre then it's an easy swap.

Standard wireless, it's annoying Grin The Hive multi zone looks good
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ineedaholidayandwine · 08/10/2021 08:22

@Ecthelion

Hive will work if you get a second multizone one.

Do you have one of the smart Heatmiser thermostats or standard at the moment? Wired or wireless? I have a Heatmiser Neo smart thermostat and it's fairly easy to control using the app. If you already have the UH8-RF wireless wiring centre then it's an easy swap.

We only have the Heatmiser for the UFH, the radiators are on a honeywell thermostat so we'd like one system to do both
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Ecthelion · 08/10/2021 10:02

Heatmiser can do both, you'd just need someone to move the wiring from your Honeywell wiring centre to the Heatmiser one. Do you have the massive wiring centre that looks like this heatmisershop.co.uk/heatmiser-uh8-rf-8-zone-wireless-wiring-centre/

It's not a big job either way for whoever's doing the wiring but it might work out slightly cheaper to keep the Heatmiser for the UFH and just add a Heatmiser thermostat to the radiators. The app controlled thermostats are ~£55 each so if you already have the big wiring centre you'd just need two thermostats and the hub to plug into your router. www.elementshop.co.uk/heatmiser-neostat-programmable-thermostat-white-v2

You can read more about the app at www.heatmiser.com/en/heatmiser-neo-overview/

Our setup is:
UF8-RF Wiring Centre connected to boiler
Pump for UFH wired into wiring centre
Thermostat for UFH wirelessly connected to wiring centre
Thermostat for Radiators wirelessly connected to wiring centre
neoHub plugged into router

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ineedaholidayandwine · 08/10/2021 10:20

@Ecthelion

Heatmiser can do both, you'd just need someone to move the wiring from your Honeywell wiring centre to the Heatmiser one. Do you have the massive wiring centre that looks like this heatmisershop.co.uk/heatmiser-uh8-rf-8-zone-wireless-wiring-centre/

It's not a big job either way for whoever's doing the wiring but it might work out slightly cheaper to keep the Heatmiser for the UFH and just add a Heatmiser thermostat to the radiators. The app controlled thermostats are ~£55 each so if you already have the big wiring centre you'd just need two thermostats and the hub to plug into your router. www.elementshop.co.uk/heatmiser-neostat-programmable-thermostat-white-v2

You can read more about the app at www.heatmiser.com/en/heatmiser-neo-overview/

Our setup is:
UF8-RF Wiring Centre connected to boiler
Pump for UFH wired into wiring centre
Thermostat for UFH wirelessly connected to wiring centre
Thermostat for Radiators wirelessly connected to wiring centre
neoHub plugged into router

Then you for that, yes we do have that big unit, it's under the stairs where all the pipes etc for the UFH are. I'll do some reading on the Heatmiser options, as you say will be easier
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ineedaholidayandwine · 08/10/2021 10:23

@Ecthelion

Heatmiser can do both, you'd just need someone to move the wiring from your Honeywell wiring centre to the Heatmiser one. Do you have the massive wiring centre that looks like this heatmisershop.co.uk/heatmiser-uh8-rf-8-zone-wireless-wiring-centre/

It's not a big job either way for whoever's doing the wiring but it might work out slightly cheaper to keep the Heatmiser for the UFH and just add a Heatmiser thermostat to the radiators. The app controlled thermostats are ~£55 each so if you already have the big wiring centre you'd just need two thermostats and the hub to plug into your router. www.elementshop.co.uk/heatmiser-neostat-programmable-thermostat-white-v2

You can read more about the app at www.heatmiser.com/en/heatmiser-neo-overview/

Our setup is:
UF8-RF Wiring Centre connected to boiler
Pump for UFH wired into wiring centre
Thermostat for UFH wirelessly connected to wiring centre
Thermostat for Radiators wirelessly connected to wiring centre
neoHub plugged into router

Is the Heatmiser app easy to use?
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Ecthelion · 08/10/2021 11:26

Yeah, I think it's pretty easy. You set up the temperature you want it to at certain times of the day and it works out when best to turn the heating on/off to get to that temperature at that time.

If it's too cold at any time then you just open the app up and drag the heat indicator round to what you want it to be. You can do fancy stuff like geolocation "turn the heating on/off when I get home/close to the house" etc too but we haven't set that up yet. It's got an Apple Watch app too and Siri integration/etc if you use Apple stuff.

Heating engineers/plumbers - smart thermostat help
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ineedaholidayandwine · 08/10/2021 11:55

@Ecthelion

Yeah, I think it's pretty easy. You set up the temperature you want it to at certain times of the day and it works out when best to turn the heating on/off to get to that temperature at that time.

If it's too cold at any time then you just open the app up and drag the heat indicator round to what you want it to be. You can do fancy stuff like geolocation "turn the heating on/off when I get home/close to the house" etc too but we haven't set that up yet. It's got an Apple Watch app too and Siri integration/etc if you use Apple stuff.

Thank you. Looks nice and easy and sounds like Nest when we had that, i do like the geo location. I'll look into it some more. Really appreciate everyone's advice
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