Inframe or Shaker?

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Just that really. I’ve always wanted an inframe kitchen, but a few people have said to me that the lip on the doors is actually a pain and not worth it. Any opinions?

I have in frame and there is no lip. The frame sits around the outside of the cabinet opening rather than overlapping inside the cabinet opening.

Bit like this photo - you can see there is no lip

Ah I see now - there is no lip at the bottom but yes there is a lip at the top and the door does encroach on the space more than with a lay on door.

I think mine is the same as yours @minipie not really sure why it would be done the other way?

We have in frame shaker. No lip at the bottom of the cupboards although there is on the sides and top, but it's not a problem at all. Our drawers are large so no issues with things catching them either. It's is a painted kitchen though, so if we were to get any chips it wouldn't be too difficult to touch them up. Probably more difficult with melamine units.

Just on the lip vs no lip...when I was looking for my most recent kitchen I noticed that some "in frame kitchens" weren't actually in frame kitchens in that they just had a standard sized overlay door with a smaller cut out in them which caused a lip all the way round the inside IYSWIM. I think it varies between where you get them from and what unit style you get. The Magnet in frame ones I looked at had the lip all the way around but the HMKOC one I eventually got didn't.

From looking closely at the Magnet ones I think this was a way for them to use their standard carcasses and still make something that looks like an inframe kitchen.

The front facing frame is thicker than the side walls of the cupboards, so it will inevitably overlap the opening a bit on the top and sides. On small cupboards e.g. 300mm wide ones, drawerline units, this steals quite a bit of space from the opening, especially if the doors don't hinge clear of it. They need to be on butt hinges not spring hinges to open clear.

The frame also steals space from drawers and makes pull-outs and corners difficult. We had a kitchen like this and ended up removing the frames on some units and attaching them to the doors (so the whole front pulled out as one) - this might be essential for say a dishwasher.

It's a lovely look but I think best in a traditional house with simple, generously proportioned units. In a fussy little kitchen with lots of corners, small drawers and narrow cupboards it's terrible. Just go for a full size door.

Hi all, I'm new here. I'm having my kitchen done, but I'm struggling with either to go with Matt handless or shaker. I don't like grey, I like dark colours but I fear the kitchen will be datted quicker with dark locour. Please help. Thanks