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Which floor plan is best?

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Snoopypants · 14/09/2021 22:00

Hi,

I’ve seen some helpful comments here and I’m hoping to get some feedback on 2 proposed floorplans. We’re remodelling our bungalow and we’re happy with the plans for upstairs but still undecided for the ground floor.

We have a beautiful north facing garden and so we’re maximising glazing at the back for garden views and light. The current lounge/diner is a lovely double aspect space with good light levels and so we felt the best approach was to knock down one wall to create an L shaped kitchen diner. We need an office and would like a separate play room. We also want a room on the ground floor which we can use for guests as required- but we’d probably use it mainly as a second reception room (tv room/snug) with sofa bed. The utility room has to stay where it is- it’s too expensive to knock down and rebuild and we can’t really repurpose the space as it’s in a converted storage room with low ceilings (it’s perfectly fine for a utility). We’re getting rid of an old plastic conservatory and won’t be extending the ground floor at all- we shouldn’t need to hopefully.

The first plan we liked has a playroom in between the kitchen and utility- a minor compromise we thought and would work well for our young family now. I wonder if we end up regretting this later when the kids are older and want their own hang out space… having to walk through this room every time we need to do laundry, empty bins, etc. When we need to sell the house (hopefully not for a long while but you never know) would this put off any buyers?

We worked up an alternative plan which moves the kitchen diner into the corner, next to the utility. We can put a door straight to the side alley for access to bins, etc and this means we can remove one of the utility doors which gives the utility way more storage space. We also get a hallway cupboard with this plan which we’ll find very useful. I think we’d need to partition off the existing lounge with glazed doors to let light through on this plan. We would put the play room area next to the open plan kitchen diner so it’s one big family room. I wonder if we should leave the existing wall here so we can close off the play room to make it more cosy and separate when required. I’m not sure though… I like the 6m sliding doors the architect suggested- gives it a wow factor- would be a shame to put a wall in the way…

Which would you prefer? Any other ideas we may not have considered? We want to keep the tandem garage as it is- we find it very useful.

I’ve added photos of the 2 proposed floorplans and existing plan (sorry for the tippex and camera shots, I only have printouts). Some of the doors need updating- e.g we don’t want a pocket door on the office but probably will put one on the kitchen door near the WC.

Which floor plan is best?
Which floor plan is best?
Which floor plan is best?
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allsorts1 · 14/09/2021 22:10

I like plan 2 with the play room to the right of the kitchen in the separate space and the dining room opposite the patio doors. Much nicer flow and then when kids are older play room can become second lounge for TV watching.

nocoolnamesleft · 14/09/2021 22:11

Accessing the utility room through the playroom, with young children, would seem like a recipe for them to be nibbling on laundry products when your back is momentarily turned, unless you had the sort of lock that's a right pain to fiddle with when you have your arms full of washing. In terms of resale, utility room off the kitchen makes more sense, though minor detail if you're planning on staying put.

00100001 · 14/09/2021 22:19

Plan 2 for me.

The utility being through the playroom would be a pita for me. (3)as would having the dining space in the living room (3)

Palavah · 14/09/2021 22:23

Actual lived experience from other threads seem to be that children don't like playing in a separate playroom - they'd want to come and play adjacent to where you are, which would make the plan with playroom between lounge and kitchendiner the better layout. Add to that the risks of playroom next to utility etc.

Lobster2018 · 14/09/2021 22:25

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parietal · 14/09/2021 22:27

I like the plan without the playroom, and I think there is no need to separate the lounge into two spaces with glazed doors. I'd keep the lounge as one big open space, and the kitchen diner as a second big open space. But with a wall or door between so that someone can have TV in the lounge without hearing the chat in the dining room & vice/versa.

Have plenty of cupboards for toys, and then kids & toys can go in both (e.g. lego in lounge, crafts in kitchen). I don't think a separate playroom ever really works, because little kids (under 10) mostly want to be near the grownups, and bigger kids don't want the same kind of messy toys anyway.

parietal · 14/09/2021 22:29

also, in that kitchen plan, I'd swap the hob and the sink so that you don't see the mess in the sink as soon as you walk into the kitchen.

disneydreaming · 14/09/2021 22:29

I would do for option 2 with playroom off the kitchen in between the tv room, possibly with some form or door/wall that opens right up into the kitchen so when your making lunch etc you can open up and they can play but that you can also totally close off when they are in bed etc if that makes sense.

Autumnally · 14/09/2021 22:32

A playroom is utterly pointless - we had one for a couple of months when moving in here and it was just a constant tip with toys spilling into the rest of the house. What is important though if you have the space is a second sitting room. I don’t like the idea of sofa bed tv room because sofa beds are uncomfortable as sofas and as beds.

NotDonna · 14/09/2021 22:37

The middle plan. So your first idea. For all the reasons you’ve listed. The other plan maybe ok for now but the first plan allows more flexibility later on. When they’re little open plan works well and it’s still pretty open with the play area in view. As they grow the play area can change to a more relaxed chat space. Especially useful if you’ve adult friends over - where you’ll tend to hang out in the kitchen. The kids can then watch movies in the tv room. Totally open plan is ok when little but it’s not long before separate rooms are useful. You’ve got a lot of space and it’d be good to have flexibility which your 1st plan allows. When we had open plan (an L shape like yours) and friends or family came over we’d be cooking and chatting in the kitchen but the kids could not hear the movie. Some separation is handy. Your 1st idea gives you the best of both worlds.

VikingsandDragons · 14/09/2021 22:59

The first one, with the utility directly off the kitchen. I've never understood not having them off the kitchen because they're a lot less useful, I can't keep my bulky blender or cake tins in it because I don't want to be trapsing through other rooms, I can't put my noisy dishwasher in it because again, I'm not taking mucky pans etc through another room dripping on the floor, and then back into the kitchen to put away, its a pita. In an open plan house (we have similar to layout 1) being able to put the washer and dishwasher somewhere quiet is really important. The first plan would allow you to have two living spaces, one within the kitchen/dining area, and the other seperated by the doors if you choose. Ours is like this, the playroom is part of the main big open space during the day, but can be closed off if they have friends round or they're watching a film while we are in the other living space. It's really flexible and great for when we have people over as we can open it into one big space, where if the rooms were on opposite sides of the house you're more limited. Plan 1 has a much more spacious feel to the kitchen, 2 just seems like too many small spaces are squashed in when in reality a family spend most of their time in the same space anyway.

longtompot · 14/09/2021 23:10

Could the guest room double up as a playroom? Lots of storage which all the toys could go in when you have guests? Unless you have guests all the time. I prefer the layout without the playroom, but can see it could be a good room to have if you have young children.

Snoopypants · 15/09/2021 00:25

Immensely helpful- thanks everyone. Looks like the kitchen should ideally be next to the utility and I agree with PPs about kids wanting to be near the adults in a larger living space. We’re currently using ‘bedroom 2’ as a playroom which is ok as I can just about see them through the doorways between the kitchen. But really they rarely spend time in there on their own unless they have friends over who want to see all their toys 😂 I have to admit it is really nice being able to close the door on the mess though if I haven’t had time to tidy (or rather supervise the older DD to tidy!).

Will ponder whether to keep the existing wall (which would mean losing our lovely feature of a 6m sliding door) so we can have flexibility with a pocket door or similar. If we keep the wall here to separate the play area should we keep it open with the rest of the lounge or put in the glazed doors as depicted in the plan?

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Snoopypants · 15/09/2021 00:29

Longtompot- I would prefer not to put guests in a playroom as I like to give them their own space and I think that would be hard to do when all the toys are in there.
I still like the idea of a separate tv room/snug with sofa bed- maybe we could do this when the kids are older if we need more separate living. I would prioritise a comfy sofabed for sitting rather than sleeping if they exist (means the guests won’t outstay their welcome 😂).

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Morechocmorechoc · 15/09/2021 06:50

On plan 2 there's no bedroom 1, does that mean you have a bedroom somewhere else...you say bungalow so wasn't sure?

If that's the case and you have a nice shiwer with your bedroom then I'd make a lot more changes to get the kitchen right in plan 2.

TilerSwift · 15/09/2021 07:46

Plan 2

Snoopypants · 15/09/2021 07:57

Morechoc- we have 3 bedrooms, one with an en-suite, and a family bathroom upstairs. This is good for our family of 4, but we’re keeping a room available downstairs for guests and if we end up staying til old age we can move downstairs. What changes to the kitchen would you make?

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PurBal · 15/09/2021 08:06

Is there a reason why the kitchen can’t go next to the utility and playroom in between kitchen and living room? So your second idea but with the rooms switched? I appreciate the dining table but I’m just suggesting rejigging a bit. Utility off kitchen makes more sense to me.

Snoopypants · 15/09/2021 08:32

PurBal- do you mean walking through the playroom to get to the dining area? That wouldn’t work. Sorry if I haven’t understood…

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longtompot · 15/09/2021 12:22

What's this area going to be used for in plan 1 (the middle pic)? Could this be utilised as a play room area?

longtompot · 15/09/2021 12:23

Photo didn't post. The area to the left of the kitchen, between the living room and the doors to the back garden.

chesirecat99 · 15/09/2021 12:59

The plan with the playroom next to the utility flows much better.

You could always turn it into a formal dining room when they no longer need it. It would be cheap and easy to put it a stud wall to split off the sitting room from the dining area to make a TV area in the open plan part so you have a teenager TV room and adult sitting room in the future or you use the guest room as a teenage sitting room with a sofa bed.

Or, as I think PurBal is suggesting:

On the left: sitting room with sliding doors and dining area to take advantage of the lovely patio doors.
On the right (where the bedroom is now): kitchen area next to the utility. Don't put in an outside door, keep the outside door for the bins in the utility, that will give you more scope for kitchen layouts as you will have a blank wall. You would have to come up with a new kitchen layout though.
In the middle (where the kitchen is now): a family sitting area/playroom

LittleOverWhelmed · 15/09/2021 20:53

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Snoopypants · 15/09/2021 23:52

I know the walls are a bit awkward- we don’t want to pay for a costly extension to straighten them out- would be a lot of money for little gain I think…
Sorry we didn’t mark out the play area in plan 2- it would be between the kitchen and lounge but we hasn’t decided on the doors/partitions.

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Snoopypants · 15/09/2021 23:54

*haven’t

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