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Harrassed by failed buyers

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blacklilypad · 08/09/2021 13:28

My friend and her husband completed and moved into their new house 3 weeks ago. They were looking for months and finally found the perfect property. It went to best and final and they didn't get it. My friend was distraught and her DH called the estate agent offered more money and they got it. Obviously, this was not a particularly ethical thing to do but it happens and it worked for them.

After they had been in the house a couple of days, they received a hand delivered letter saying they 'would get what was coming to them'. Their first thought was it was some teenagers bored over the school holiday and they were a little worried about what kind of neighbourhood they had bought into.

The next one said something along the lines of karma would sort them out and they knew what they did. It started to get very I know what you did last summer. But this made them think it was the buyer that they gazuumped.

They have received several more and get them every few days. My friend is really upset. She is a very sensitive and kind person and already had felt terrible about the gazuumping but her DH had convinced her it was fine. They have gone to the local police station but they can't help as currently no crime has been committed as the threats are more karma based than 'I'm going to hurt you'.

They are looking at getting a camera to see if they can catch them or hopefully just put them off doing it.

Has anyone else ever had any experience of anything like this? If so, did they eventually get bored? I know gazuumping is horrible (and have had it done to me) but this seems a bit of an over the top reaction to it.

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BoredZelda · 08/09/2021 17:34

The police are wrong, it's harassment, pure and simple. They need to go back and make a complaint - ask for it to be escalated to the Duty Inspector.

Yes, I'm constantly surprised how many times on MN the police seem ignorant of the law.

Jemand · 08/09/2021 17:37

@GreyhoundG1rl, don't you think the police have a duty to deal with threats amounting as a minimum to harassment then? Why not?

Loudestcat14 · 08/09/2021 17:38

It's the vendor at fault, not your friends. It went to best and final offers and he chose to ignore that when they said they could go higher. I would be contacting the estate agent they bought through to tell them what's happened and that they've reported the letters to the police and if the EA is sensible they'll drop a note to the failed buyers warning them it's being escalated.

LCDP · 08/09/2021 17:41

It could be a case of mistaken identity, wrong address, directed to the previous owner, or it could be as they suspect. Do they have a drive way? They can also install drive way sensors that sound alarms.

CorianderBee · 08/09/2021 17:54

Call the police, that's malicious communications

CorianderBee · 08/09/2021 17:55

Oh you already did. OK Zoom cameras then I guess. Sounds horrid

CorianderBee · 08/09/2021 17:56

@ScrumptiousBears

She's sensitive but happy to go along with offering over and above a best and final offer even though they technically lost. Whilst this is horrible to receive these messages and that shouldn't happen, she needs to check her morals.
Why? More money is more money and down to the seller.
user1473878824 · 08/09/2021 18:58

@ScrumptiousBears

She's sensitive but happy to go along with offering over and above a best and final offer even though they technically lost. Whilst this is horrible to receive these messages and that shouldn't happen, she needs to check her morals.
Get a grip!
OmgIcantbelieveshedidit · 08/09/2021 19:00

@BarkingUpTheWrongRoseBush

Getting a ring doorbell would be a start, keeping a record of everything. If it continues then keep contacting the police - it doesn't have to be threatening to be harrassment.,

Hopefully the frustrated buyers will find somewhere new and move on....

I’d put a discreet camera up both inside (in like the lounge pointing out through the window) and a ring doorbell and put it somewhere discrete and catch them on camera
Cissyandflora · 08/09/2021 19:25

@canigooutyet

Any chance the previous owners were getting harassed like this?
Ooooh good idea! The gazumping might be a red herring here.
TheRebelle · 08/09/2021 19:37

Don’t know why everyone’s getting so precious about gazumping, we all know it’s a thing that can happen in this country, we all wish the system were different but it isn’t, and if they did it straight away, which it sounds like they did, it won’t have cost the other potential buyers anything if they haven’t had surveys etc.

Jux · 08/09/2021 20:04

Gazumping's allowed, but harrassment is not. How the buyers got the house is none of our business.

It's harrassment. The cop they spoke to is being lazy. They should try again.

longue · 08/09/2021 20:12

Well the harassment is wrong but there was a thread about gazundering recently & some of the suggestions to get back at the buyers were batshit.

FleasInMyKnees · 08/09/2021 20:12

It may not even be the failed buyers, it could be anyone with a grudge and could have been going on before OP moved in. The e.a could ask the people if it is them or know of anyone who it could be and say the police are involved. If it's not the failed buyers they will be relieved they didnt win the bid.

longue · 08/09/2021 20:13

but most people hate gazundering but are ok with gazunping 🤔

longue · 08/09/2021 20:14

Why? More money is more money and down to the seller.

So your ok with gazundering?

ItsSunnyOutside · 08/09/2021 20:15

Being gazumped is not the greatest feeling in the world but the person/people sending these letters are super weird. Totally uncalled for, I can't believe some people on here are almost saying 'well, its your own fault " Odd.

longue · 08/09/2021 20:16

Tough shit, that’s how the world works! If you’re nice then you’re at a disadvantage because nobody else is. You have to play the game. OP’s friend offered more money and she won. Sucks to be the other person but they can’t go around harassing people just because they were outbid.

Well technically they can & are.
What has made you so bitter?

Suzi888 · 08/09/2021 20:17

@Eastie77Returns

Your friend's DH's behaviour was fine and not unethical. If you don't ask, you don't get. It sounds as if the failed buyer was unable to improve on the increased offer which is a shame and disappointing but that's life. They should be upset with the vendor rather than the new owners.

If the failed buyer is posting the messages they are clearly a bit unhinged and I would look into getting the camera fitted.

^ this I was furious when this happened to us, but what can you do. Definitely get a camera installed, I’d have a word with the estate agent too, see if they know who it is.
surreygirl1987 · 08/09/2021 20:19

Some people's reactions on this thread are ridiculous. Yes it's horrible when you get gazumped but it is allowed, it is perfectly legal, and the system is designed in such a way that it is allowed to happen. I agree the English system needs an overhaul but the system is the issue, not people trying to buy a home! The harassing messages, on the other hand, are NOT allowed, not normal, and very malicious.

GreyhoundG1rl · 08/09/2021 20:21

The messages are not definitely to do with the gazumping. Op can probably think of a dozen reasons someone might hope Karma catches up with her...

longue · 08/09/2021 20:24

Some people's reactions on this thread are ridiculous. Yes it's horrible when you get gazumped but it is allowed, it is perfectly legal, and the system is designed in such a way that it is allowed to happen

The system needs a chain but I find it odd that gazumping is ok but gazunderjng is seen as worst then being the antichrist.

AdoraBell · 08/09/2021 20:25

Definitely fit cameras and keep the notes, report to the police each time another note arrives.

FurierTransform · 08/09/2021 21:18

They were clearly heavily emotionally invested in buying this house & see it as having been stolen from them with underhand tactics.

As with any grief, they will move on. I wouldn't waste any time thinking about it really & definitely wouldn't go to the expense of fitting cameras etc - even of they choose to escalate and damage your car etc they will probably just wear a covid mask & be unidentifiable.

blacklilypad · 08/09/2021 23:17

I've spoken to my friend and they have gotten a Nest doorbell but need something else to fit it. A transformer, maybe? Not my area of expertise. They will fit it at the weekend.

Thanks for the advice everyone. She was pretty upset today when I spoke to her and she spoke to the police again. They were very sympathic but said realistically, with budget cuts, they just didn't have the man power to help as the crime is very low priority. But have told her to keep a diary of when the letters are received and if a clear image is obtained from the camera then they 'may' be able to look into it.

A couple of people seem to think this is about me and not a friend. It is not. I am still in the midst of my purchase and did not gazuump or gazuunder to secure it. I posted for my friend as I have received advice from nice MNer on my purchase and thought people may have experienced similar and may be able to offer advice and she does not use MN.

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