Ring doorbell? CCTV?

[purpleme12]

Hi
Do you think ring doorbell or CCTV would be better?
Can you attach ring doorbell to outside walls so it watches your gardens as well as your door?
I guess I'd need my 2 gardens and the side of my house where my door is, to be watched
Is this CCTV job or ring doorbell?
I don't know much about any as I've never had to think of this before
How much did you pay for yours, whatever you got?

I had hoped to film the whole of my garden ie that might include a bit if neighbour's garden and drive in order to film the whole garden. But they will protest at that. Which is a shame as they're the reason I want to do it. For things they might do to my garden, (while they might still be in their garden to do it)

We got a hive camera as it was the only one we could find where you could review the footage of the previous 24 hours without paying a subscription.

You will have to angle it so you can't see the neighbour's garden. Especially if you don't have a good relationship with them!

Yes I didn't think of this when I started this thread 😓
But they're the ones I want to catch in the act
Which will be hard if we can't film the edge of my garden 😓

Google nest cam is really good! Had one on both houses I’ve owned now.
Had a ring doorbell and it was crap lasted a month before we got rid.

You'll be fine if the camera "naturally" catches the neighbour's garden. Most do. My doorbell obviously picks up the facing properties and there's no way around it.

Just put a little sticker in your front window to warn that CCTV is in use. That's what the police advised me to do when we were broken into and I asked if we were able to put up the camera given they'd capture other properties.

From the ICO website:

What are my rights?
If you are filmed on someone’s domestic CCTV system, which is capturing images outside the boundary of their home, the data protection laws give you several rights.
In particular, you have the following rights:
• To be told that a home CCTV system is being used. The CCTV user must let people know they have CCTV. Signs are the most common way of doing this. They must be clearly visible and legible.
• To ask for a copy of the information that is held about you. This is known as making a subject access request. You can ask verbally or in writing for copies of any footage where your image is identifiable. The CCTV user must respond to this request within one month. Bear in mind that if they regularly delete footage they no longer need, they might not hold your images.
• To ask the CCTV user to erase any personal data they hold about you.
• To ask that the CCTV user does not capture any footage of you in future. However, the nature of CCTV systems may make this very difficult and it might not be possible for the user to do this.

Ok thank you
It just makes me a bit nervous now cos I think any chance they can get to cause trouble they will do

You can't aim it straight into a neighbour's garden but your system can catch some of it. With security cameras it is often not possible to position it so it can only view a small area. Mine catches next door's path (not that he cares as it watches his car too and that's just more security) and mine also covers the road and even the public park in front. Both totally legal. You can record any public area. So streets and roads are perfectly fine.

So just do not point it directly at the neighbour's garden but if it's able to see a bit, as long as you don't let anyone see it (like posting it online when they're caught doing something wrong) then you're fine.

Great thread, thank you.

@purpleme12 there are pros and cons to both hardwired and wifi cameras. We have a Ring doorbell and then several Ring cameras as our property is a weird shape. It costs £8 a month I believe for unlimited cameras.

Issues with wifi, burglars can use blockers to block the wifi, however with hardwired they can nick the recorder if they can find it. We used to have a hardwired camera system and now have the Ring wifi.

I would start with the blink or ring and see if that gets what you want, much cheaper than a wired in system and maybe a deterrent for your neighbours if they know you have a camera. Due to the number we have we do have CCTV signs up, but small ones.

Re capturing anything of your neighbours, they could contact the police and you would have to show the police what you are recording but if it is 96% your garden and a teeny bit of theirs then I cannot see it being an issue especially if you then tell the police why you are recording your garden. So please don't let that put you off.