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Satinwood used over Quick Dry Primer and Undercoat?

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beedoorknocker · 02/09/2021 10:57

I am painting my stairs at the moment and originally I had planned to paint with a well known brand Quick Dry Gloss (QDG) paint. I was told that I needed to first use the Quick Dry Primer and Undercoat (QDP&U). So I've painted the stairs and the trim with the QDP&U but now I've changed my mind and want to paint the steps with the QDG but I would like to paint the risers and trim in Satinwood.
I have looked online to see if I can paint Satinwood over QDP&U and everywhere I look says 'Satinwood doesn't need an undercoat', but what if I've already painted with QDP&U will the Satinwood go on top ok?
I'll keep trying to phone the shop but in the meantime I'm hoping someone here will be able to advise or point me to a reference page somewhere. Thanks!

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brieandbacon · 02/09/2021 17:00

I ve always used satinwood instead of gloss. I've always under coated first. I've renovated many many houses and always done this. I've never heard that satinwood doesn't need undercoat. Its treated exactly the same as gloss. always use a proper brand and don't use the quick dry satinwood which is water based. (All quick dry paints are water based and you usually need more than one coat) Normal satinwood is oil based and covers better and is tougher although takes longer to dry. Brushes need cleaning with white spirit/turps rather than water.

Somanysocks · 03/09/2021 10:11

It's fine, the no undercoat thing is purely to make less work. It is always better to undercoat first as it brings better opacity to the finish.

HeronLanyon · 03/09/2021 10:15

I can’t see this being a problem at all I too have only used satinwood for a long time and have often used ‘an undercoat’ - often one hanging around ina cupboard and not idea whether universal application. Never had any problems painting satin wood over an undercoat.

beedoorknocker · 08/09/2021 10:33

Thank you all! I've painted the satinwood over the primer/undercoat and it's been absolutely fine. I've allowed 24 hours to dry between coats (which is a nightmare when painting stairs) but I am really pleased with the finish!:)

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CellophaneFlower · 08/09/2021 12:02

Be careful if you've used gloss on the actual treads, as it may well be slippery. An actual floor paint might have been a better choice.

beedoorknocker · 10/09/2021 14:17

I have never seen paints specifically for floors CellphaneFlower. When I looked online for painting stairs tutorials they all recommended gloss. I haven't noticed slipping but the white gloss does show up the marks. They're easy enough to wipe off though I guess. I'm eventually planning to put in a stair runner but haven't decided on a style yet.

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CellophaneFlower · 10/09/2021 16:22

Lots of floor and porch paints available, they're non slip... or less slippy at least! The gloss will definitely be easier to wipe down/sweep though. If you're getting a runner, it won't matter as much Smile

CasperGutman · 10/09/2021 21:40

@brieandbacon

I ve always used satinwood instead of gloss. I've always under coated first. I've renovated many many houses and always done this. I've never heard that satinwood doesn't need undercoat. Its treated exactly the same as gloss. always use a proper brand and don't use the quick dry satinwood which is water based. (All quick dry paints are water based and you usually need more than one coat) Normal satinwood is oil based and covers better and is tougher although takes longer to dry. Brushes need cleaning with white spirit/turps rather than water.
I wouldn't use oil-based, I'd use water-based. Oil based paints turn yellow, especially in internal areas like on the stairs where they don't get much sunlight on them. Modern oil-based paints are much worse for this than the old ones. A friend painted some bookcases with oil-based satinwood five or six years ago, and it was so yellow by the time I saw it last year that I didn't even realise it was meant to be white. For this reason alone, I'd use a good quality water-based paint.

As a bonus, drying quickly is a good thing in my book. If you can get two coats on in a day, great. And on the stairs you want to be able to use them again within a reasonable timescale.

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