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Moderate-high risk of coal mining subsidence

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AnxietyForever · 03/08/2021 18:46

So we found out today that the house we want to buy has a moderate- high risk of coal mining subsidence
It's knocked us for 6, any thoughts?
We had the surveyor going out tomorrow.

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MadeForThis · 10/08/2021 22:10

It would make me nervous. I would worry about not being able to sell it as future buyers would be nervous too.

AnxietyForever · 10/08/2021 22:27

@BikeRunSki Thanks for that. Mining stopped (I believe) in 1904 and no knows shafts near our house.
I should get the report in the next couple of days.
Apparently it's really common in our area (Yorkshire) so might be hard to avoid in the future.

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BikeRunSki · 11/08/2021 08:03

@AnxietyForever, can you pm me the postcode/location of the new house? I’m Yorkshire based too, you are right, there are huge areas of Yorks, particularly S Yorks, that have been undermined. Is it a new build??

AnxietyForever · 11/08/2021 08:41

@BikeRunSki could you PM me and I'll reply? Not sure how to PM first, cheers

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BikeRunSki · 11/08/2021 09:21

@AnxietyForever, done

flashbac · 11/08/2021 11:10

Hope it works out for you OP. I was in a similar position a few months ago and it frightened the living daylights out of me! The mining report said similar to yours but my surveyor was not too bothered. I even got the house revalued but that valuer wasn't too bothered about the report either, saying it wouldn't have an impact on value. I then went back to the company who produced the report to get more info. Turns out the seam apparently 8m under the property was abandoned 27 years before the house was built. The house is more than 100 years old.
My personal opinion is that these newer computer generated reports aren't very pragmatic and strongly err on the side of caution.
It would be interesting to hear your general view on this @bikerunski ?

BikeRunSki · 11/08/2021 11:45

@flashbac, the initial mining reports that conveyancors are required to get, are very much a screening tool. The database they are based on is well populated, and will eliminate the “no problem” areas and trigger a more in-depth investigation in potentially more problematic areas.

The depth, thickness and age of mining all matters, and this can vary significantly in a small geographical area. The type of extraction technique matters too. Longwall mining (where large areas of coal are removed at once, and the roof might be supported with sacrificial props) subsides more quickly and more evenly than pillar and stall working (where smaller areas are removed, and alternated with areas where the coal is left in), is more stable and subsides more slowly but more locally and more exaggeratedly. Often, it needs local knowledge, local records etc to know which method was used, where and when. Often records have been lost, hence the need for site specific surveys. Also, when you are looking to see if the ground has moved, it could well have moved since the previous survey.

Then there’s non-coal mining!

But in answer to your original Q @flashbac, those initial reports are a great filter. Pre-internet (I’m that old) used to have to look up or request everything separately, landfill, flooding, coal mining, groundwater, uxo, other minerals, radon…

BelhavenTer · 11/08/2021 13:18

I bought in June a townhouse conversion in Glasgow. There were two reports emerged during the conveyancing period that were unsettling. The standard Coal Report mentioned subsidence claims within 50 metres of the property and the seller’s solicitor therefore provided a Subsidence Buffer Report. Five claims from 1995 from properties 30 metres away occured however all rejected by the Coal Authority and those were many years ago. In my case the Coal Authority also provided a free insurance policy, although very small. I decided to proceed and not regretting a single moment. Took longer than I thought to find a tradesman to paint and fixe the flat, it just sparkled and let itself immediately. Good luck.

flashbac · 14/08/2021 20:01

Any news OP?

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