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How do I replace my loo pan, (main loo) what measurements do I need please

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Lemonmelonsun · 20/07/2021 14:34

Another one from me, our loo is falling apart, how do I replace it? I'm sure it was mfi about 13 years old. So they have fine out of business, I had a look in homebase and they look quite small.
Does anyone know what I'm supposed to be looking at to replace?

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PigletJohn · 20/07/2021 15:10

if (most likely) the outlet emerges horizontally from the back, and goes into a socket through the wall, or into a sloping soil pipe that goes sodways tpwards a duct, measure the height of the centre of the outlet from the pan.

If (less common) the outlet emerges vertically and goes into a socket in the floor, measure the distance from the wall to the centre of the outlet.

If the bathroom is cramped, and you want a WC that does not project far from the wall, you can get a Short Projection WC.

I expect you have a "close coupled" WC where the cistern is attached to a shelf that comes out of the top rear of the pan, at about seat height. These are most common and easiest to find. If you have a separate cistern attached to the wall above the pan, with a pipe linking them, and want to retain the old world look, they are still available.

Modern WCs have a low water content flush, and it is common for people to complain that the flush is inadequate. I suggest avoiding unbranded imported WCs from DIY sheds or budget suppliers, and getting one by an established British maker. I am very happy with Twyfords. If you want an old fashioned style, Armitage still make old designs popular with vintage hotels and country houses, at higher cost.

You should be able to find a technical drawing with dimensions shown. Check that the soil pipe outlet matches your existing for an easy fit. The water supply pipe to the cistern often eters from underneath, sometimes from the side. A plumber can alter the pipe is necessary.

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I see Twyfords products are being rebranded Geberit - see here

QS sometimes have good prices.

if you really want a back-to-the-wall or concealed cistern, tiled over, feel free, as long as you don't mind me pouring scorn on you when it goes wrong and repair is a major job.

Don't buy a square bog unless you've got a square arse. A new seat to match will cost a fortune, or be unavailable.

Lemonmelonsun · 20/07/2021 20:06

Thanks so much piglet John, this sounds very complicated to me will have to pick through it, I'm not sure of any of it! FlowersCakeBrew

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PigletJohn · 20/07/2021 21:23

nah

post a pic of your old one. from the side.

Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 16:15

We inherited what's here, the whole bathroom wase re done by previous owner just before we got it, the loo is joined to a box which has the flush system in it I can't see any pipes or anything it's loo then box.

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PigletJohn · 21/07/2021 16:17

photo photo photo!

jaundicedoutlook · 21/07/2021 17:29

Question re the concealed cistern.

We did one of these last year and the fitter screwed the (very large) tiles over it and out little shiny plugs on top of the screws before grouting, saying it would make it easier to remove and replace if access was needed for repairs.

Is this right - will it make it easier, or was I being had?

jaundicedoutlook · 21/07/2021 17:31

Like so…

How do I replace my loo pan, (main loo) what measurements do I need please
Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 17:32

Piglet John I don't know how to take the photo to attach on here.

Do you think it will be easier to replace the loo and the flush part with the water.

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BIoodyStupidJohnson · 21/07/2021 17:32

Don't buy a square bog unless you've got a square arse.

You should put this on a t-shirt.

5zeds · 21/07/2021 17:38

Take a photo, press the paper clip under the comments box, choose the photo then press post

Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 17:46

I've done that and the pics are under the message box Grin

How do I replace my loo pan, (main loo) what measurements do I need please
How do I replace my loo pan, (main loo) what measurements do I need please
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Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 17:47

Oh!! There is they are, thank you

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PigletJohn · 21/07/2021 17:50

stand back and take some wider pics please

Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 17:55

That's it really, behind is a brown box with the loo flush button in it

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5zeds · 21/07/2021 18:04

You can’t see what kind of toilet it is unless you can see the whole toiletBrew

5zeds · 21/07/2021 18:05

Nb toilets are mass produced and fairly hard to “personalise” if you are concerned that it is identifying in some wayGrin

BridgetInHerBravery · 21/07/2021 18:22

How is it 'falling apart'?

It's quite unusual for a toilet to fall apart!

Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 20:58

Bridget the seat is coming off and to fix it one has to have a very long arm and stretch right into the working of the loo somehow..

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BridgetInHerBravery · 21/07/2021 21:11

@Lemonmelonsun

Bridget the seat is coming off and to fix it one has to have a very long arm and stretch right into the working of the loo somehow..
Are you absolutely sure? I have a toilet with a top mounted seat and I thought the same until I did some investigating. You might just need specific fittings.
Lemonmelonsun · 21/07/2021 21:14

Yes dh tried to do it ages ago, he's got long arms.

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