Ceiling rose- large light fitting

[Friedbanana]

Has anybody fitted a pendant with quite a large top to a ceiling rose? I was planning to get an electrician to do it but my partner is saying they wouldn’t be able to as they will have to mess round with cutting off part of the ceiling rose/modifying it for the screws to go in properly! Partner is saying I should just buy a different light fitting but all the ones in the style I like have a really large top (I’m guessing to support the weight as they’re quite heavy with multiple glass shades!) I’m of the opinion it must be possible somehow?! So if anyone has some similar and could point me in right direction of the right tradesperson to contact that would be great!! Photos attached of current light fitting and the one I have bought!

Can you get to the other side of the ceiling, i.e. in the room above? It may be easier to fix it from there.

But don't forget the chandelier in 'Any Fools and Horses'!

Thank you for the reply! Yes I think that’s accessible although we’d have to pull up carpets in aforementioned partner’s office so he’ll be really delighted with me.. I did see this mentioned online but still not really sure how that would work, and Is it still an electrician who does that? And I think the screws would be going into the ceiling rose plaster because of the size of the pendant’s ceiling rose (why are these called the same thing? Makes it very hard to Google 😅), so I’m not sure how that would help them, although I guess they could make their own fitting to the middle and attach that to a joist from ceiling above! Sorry that’s complete ramble and prob doesn’t make sense! But this is a photo of the pendant fitting if that makes it clearer what I mean! Thanks again!!

Haha just watched the chandelier clip on YouTube, hopefully not quite as heavy 😅

We've just fitted a huge lamp shade to our ceiling rose. My husband is an elecrrciian. He had to put a batton above the ceiling in the loft space so the batton took the weight rather than the ceiling. So you'll probably need to do what a PP suggested and go under the floorboards in the room above.

Thank you @Plump82 , very useful to know! Could I please ask do you know how much he’d charge for that type of job, just so I have a rough idea!

Hes asleep just now but ill ask him in the morning and get back to you. It didn't take him long as all so i can't imagine it being too expensive.

Spoke to him and he said it would be hard to give a price as it depends on the work involved. If its just a matter of fitting the light then it wouldn't be expensive. But if he had to go in under the flooring in the room above that would involve more work. He also said that it might not need a batton on the other side of the ceiling because the joists might be strong enough.

Except its not that the top os big, but three separate lights hang off it, so you'd be drilling three separate holes in the ceiling rose to feed them through, which you may be ok with. Personally I'd get one flex from a smaller top similar in size to what's there now and get a fantastic shade (I used the biggest dandelion shade from IKEA which looked fabulous in a period room, was very light weight and cheap)!

how old is the house? this is important

there is (I hope) already some sort of support to the take weight of your existing fitting. Otherwise it would be liable to pull the plaster down. There are probably very long screws going into it.

there is a chance that the existing timber support is cracked or wormy and needs replacement, and it is very likely that the holes will be in the wrong place so new ones will be needed.

IMO you have got to lift the floor above, rather than drill blindly from below.

it would be sad if the original ceiling decoration got damaged.

unless the carpet above is rubber-backed, or very old, you'll need a competent carpet person to re-fit it afterwards.