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Renegotiating after offer accepted - Help!!!

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lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 18:00

Hello everyone, really hoping for some objective advice, I am in two (or more) minds about what on earth to do. I want to be fair but also I’m pretty upset and angry so run the risk of making a mistake.

I recently had an offer accepted on a house I love, in the area I love, about six weeks before the stamp duty holiday ends on the 30th June.
The area that I’m buying (a tiny pocket of hackney in London) has gone absolutely crazy at the moment with things going for up to 100k over asking (I know I know it’s awful)

Although I clearly didn’t offer that much over asking I did offer significantly over, everywhere was going to bidding wars and I think I had to. Luckily my offer was accepted and I was thrilled!

The vendor had found a property in Manchester where they are moving to and wanted to try to get it all through before the stamp duty holiday.

As a kind of motivator and because of my tight budget I made a dual offer- one amount if we complete before the stamp duty holiday and 10k less if it is after.

Early on I wanted to clarify whether my vendor was wanting to move directly into their new home or was happy to move into rented if we were able to sort out our purchase more quickly. The vendor said yes, they are happy to move to rented. They said this more than once, in writing.

Because they said that, I was happy to go ahead and let my buyers complete, knowing that worse case scenario I would only be in interrim accommodation myself for a few weeks.

HOWEVER
Since then everything has turned very unpleasant. The vendors solicitor advised them not to vacate their property without having their purchase sorted. This decision wasn’t really communicated to me I just got radio silence when pushing for a date. At my end we are completely ready to exchange but their solicitor won’t even talk to mine just saying ‘you need to wait’

What has ended up happening is that I have no idea how long I will be waiting and am haemorrhaging money in an air bnb with no idea of end goals. If they even said okay it will be about a month that would be useful but it feels so cruel not to have any communication. My solicitor has asked for an update with where they are with the purchase- have they done the survey/had the mortgage sorted etc and their solicitor WILL NOT answer!!

The reason I am worked up is this

  1. I feel they totally changed the goalposts saying they would go into rented and then changing their mind without really telling me. Had I known earlier I would have started looking for more suitable and affordable interim accommodation

  2. although my offer is 10k less it is actually costing me far more- stamp duty 12k moving x 2 is 2500 storage is 500 per month interim accommodation 600 per week so a total cost of FAR more
    If they had just gone into rented like they said they would none of this would have happened- not to mention the total stress of not being able to plan my life at all

  3. a minor issue came up on the survey at a cost of 2k-I asked for a reduction, they said flat out no. I did not pursue it in the interest of things being pushed through in time. Now obviously it seems we have all the time in the world to pursue it but my vendors are behaving so cage-ily I don’t want to do anything to make them suddenly pull out.

  4. fundamentally, I over offered on the house, they have caused me loads of awful stress and changed their minds on a huge issue on a whim without communicating it properly, I am now losing loads of money not just on stamp duty but on moving twice, storage and renting. Not to mention the survey amount.

I want to reduce my offer by a further 5k

I do not know when to communicate this to them as don’t want them to freak out and just pull out.

Similarly, I haven’t been in this situation before and AIBU? Is this just the nature of property in the UK and I need to suck it up? Do I need to just chill out as 5k wouldn’t recover my costs anyway?!

I just feel so upset and bitter about it and money is tight so that 5k is like the cost of an entire new carpet / sofa whatever - it means a lot to me

Please help!!!!!!

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elscar · 28/06/2021 18:12

Sorry to hear you are going through this- sounds stressful and costly!!

Perhaps they haven't found a rental property suitable for them? (Although this should be communicated to you!)

However if you reduce your offer- they could just pull out and relist? If the market is hot they aren't going to be at a detriment and could suit them as they might have no onward purchase

cloudchaos · 28/06/2021 18:24

Oh dear. It seems you made a mistake moving out and completing on your sale. I would find a more cost effect, permanent rental. You can't negotiate from your current position, if they pull out you're screwed. Get yourself a proper rental, then negotiate and be prepared for them to pull out entirely. Never assume a sale will complete.

Theunamedcat · 28/06/2021 18:27

You need a proper rental

Can you find another house?

lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 18:36

Thank you so much for your replies so far! I actually have found a more long term rental and I think that’s what I have to do now- it will save me losing more money on air bnb but as I am paying for each month up front again it’s costing a lot.

Totally agree it was my mistake completing on mine without a concrete date/exchange. I did it in good faith and it was clearly a big rookie error.

The vendors apparently have found their property and my solicitor thinks the hold up is just that their solicitor doesn’t have the capacity to get all his transactions through before the 30th and the ones he has decided aren’t going through (like this one) are now just being totally ignored until the busy period is over in July.

All this considered is it the consensus then that reducing the offer, to take into consideration a small amount of the costs and the issue on the survey is a bit of a fools errand and could just cause them to drop out?
I was thinking I could be similarly naughty to how they have been and wait until their purchase is ready to go before dropping my offer. That doesn’t really feel like an okay thing to do I just really am gutted about all this money

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NewHouseNewMe · 28/06/2021 18:37

Only try to negotiate on price if you're willing for the purchase to fail. It sounds like there is bad feeling - we are only hearing your side here - and it's possibly any more means the end of the whole thing. It is unusual to complete on one side only and they may well think that this is your issue to aoet our. If you want this place so badly, you are somewhat stuck until the legals are done.

lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 18:41

Yes totally- the bad feeling from their side will have been that they must think I’m the most pushy person in the world- since them saying they would go into rented I have been asking for dates constantly. Then when they changed their minds about it I was changing their estate agent and instead of kind of filtering what I was saying I didn’t realise the estate agent was jsut passing it all on to them verbatim Blush

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lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 18:41

*chasing their estate agent

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Wilma55 · 28/06/2021 18:45

Stamp duty is tapered till end of September isnt it?

lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 18:46

@Wilma55 it is but the saving goes from 15k to 3k at the end of June

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Hannahcolobus · 28/06/2021 18:56

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PomPomSugar · 28/06/2021 18:59

Conveyancer here-you should have been advised not to break the chain. You did so without an exchange on your purchase. It was a risk that did not pay off.

Livingintheclouds · 28/06/2021 19:00

I was told my seller would go it to rental - before I booked the survey I asked again and was assured the seller would not hold up the sale. Then day of the survey, right after it happened, the EA said the seller needed to port their mortgage so had to buy! OK, still plenty of time and at most I might have to spend a week or two in a airbnb (with kids and dogs). Two months waiting and seller still hasn't found a house, and I'm getting no reassurance that she was actively looking. I pulled out, found another house advertised as 'chain free'. I'm now a cash buyer having completed on my sale. My solicitor moved fast and we still had a chance yo make stamp duty. Then....silence. I am pulling my hair out, book another expensive week at the airbnb. Then finally I get word seller is ill and pulling out!
So I'm out £12,500 stamp duty savings, extra storage fees, £4300 in survey and lawyers fees, and am in a £800/week airbnb (I live in a holiday area). I've found another house, but I've had to book another two weeks: £2700 as schools will be out and prime season, and no certainty that I won't have to find another short term home.
Nowt I can do, and it doesn't look like you can either.
The system here is awful.
No recourse.

lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 19:15

Oh wow @Livingintheclouds I’m so sorry that is a HORRENDOUS situation. I really feel for you that is such awful luck. It is an incredibly frustrating system. I really hope you find somewhere soon but paying for yet another survey is really not ideal

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lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 19:20

@Livingintheclouds sorry I misread- so pleased you found a new place and really hope it all comes together quickly for you now!

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lizwells2020 · 28/06/2021 19:25

@PomPomSugar you are absolutely right. Unfortunately I was really worried about not selling the house as it had been on the market for a while, my buyer was conditional on getting in before the SDH and I really didn’t want to lost them. So yes, I have kind of created this situation for myself…..

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