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In your opinion, would the removal (and safekeeping) of an internal house door constitute a structural alteration?

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2sugars · 18/11/2007 15:17

? TIA

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BoysAreLikeReindeer · 18/11/2007 15:22

Do you mean like a bedroom door, or the door to front room?

colditz · 18/11/2007 15:25

No.

2sugars · 18/11/2007 15:26

Internal door leading on from hall to front room.

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edam · 18/11/2007 15:26

Er, no! Unless it's a fire door, e.g. three storey house and door to a bedroom. Are you having building work done? Are building regs saying you need to have a door there?

If you are letting out the house, there are strict rules, especially if it is multiple occupancy, btw.

2sugars · 18/11/2007 15:28

Yes, edam, letting out the house. H went there to give them a babygate and install the new tumble dryer. They asked him to remove said door, he did so and I am FUMING!!!

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prufrock · 18/11/2007 15:28

NOt a structural alteration, but could contravene building regs, more to do with fire safety than structural soundness. I think that you should have an exit route from upstairs that is protected by doors from potential fire starting places like the kitchen. But if you are comfortale with teh risk and put it right before selling/leaving rented then there shouldn't be an issue

2sugars · 18/11/2007 15:32

thanks everyone. prufrock, as far as I can see that's the only door that would prevent a fire in the kitchen from spreading to the rest of the house. Are there any web sites you're aware of where I could double check this? Thanks.

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SofiaAmes · 18/11/2007 15:36

Not a structural alteration, but as prufrock said, potential building reg violation. Mostly they are worried about smoke, not fire spreading. I think probably the biggest issue is that your dh removed the door for them. Not quite clear from your post...are these you tenants? Your dh should put the door back and then let them remove it themselves if they want it removed.

2sugars · 18/11/2007 16:04

Thanks everyone. I think what I'll do is 'phone them and tell them it has to be there as part of the building regualtions. I'll tell them if they want it removed, they'll have to ask the agency's permission, but that I doubt that this will be given.

Then I'll cautiously approach H (who I think should have blinkin' well asked me in the first place) and ask him to put it back. If he refuses I'll pay for the agency to reinstate it.

Does that all sound okay to you?

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SofiaAmes · 19/11/2007 02:32

It's a 5 second job that you could do yourself to put a door on and off. Don't pay anyone more than a tenner to do it.

2sugars · 19/11/2007 06:46

SA, you know how long it takes to do and can actually do it? Respect!!!

Will let you know what the agency says when I call them this am.

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scienceteacher · 19/11/2007 06:52

When we had our loft conversion done, and therefore under building regs, we had to have door closures fitted to 'all habitable rooms'. That meant the bedrooms, living room, and dining room.

Not sure about having to actually have a door. A lot of houses are open plan.

2sugars · 19/11/2007 07:08

ST, 'scuse the ignorance. But what exactly is a door closure, if it's not a door?

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ernest · 19/11/2007 07:30

enclosure solution? Sorry. Just reminds me of private eye...

TBH. your dh probably just thought it was a reasonable request & thought he was being helpful & didn't consider and potential fire regulations. Just explain to him the situation and ask him to put it back on. But if you're angry or fuming when you do it, he'll dig in his heals, if he's anything like my dh. Approach with cae & he'll see you're right & put it back on.

2sugars · 19/11/2007 14:43

ernest, do you know my H .....? Mmmmm?

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SofiaAmes · 19/11/2007 17:07

Door closer is a spring loaded thing that automatically pulls a door closed. They are required on all bedrooms and doors leading to "escape routes" like stairways. Everyone puts them on for inspection and then takes them off straight after because they are deadly on little kids fingers.

scienceteacher · 19/11/2007 21:11

We still have our closures on almost 4 years later. We do have lots of wedges to prop them open, but it's nice to have closed doors.

glenthorpe · 24/11/2007 12:17

GO to period property website, ask there. There are many really good people on the forum who can answer virtually problem,plus specialists like conservation officers etc

glenthorpe · 24/11/2007 12:18

sorry....can answer virtually any problem...

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