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Internal French doors that are fire rated?

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Wildwood6 · 12/05/2021 13:28

Hi wise MNers! I'd like to replace the door to my living room with some glazed French doors to get a bit more light in, ideally with a solid core rather than hollow. I don't have the space to use a pair maker to turn two regular glazed doors into a set, and as we have a loft conversion my understanding is that we'd need to use fire doors, has anyone seen such a thing for sale anywhere? I wouldn't even mind if I could find a set that were half glazed, rather than fully glazed, at the moment I'm struggling to find anything at all! TIA

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QuantumWeatherButterfly · 12/05/2021 17:13

Hi - we looked for similar recently, and honestly, they are like hens teeth! The problem is that fire glass is very expensive! Are you sure they need to be fire doors? That would only be the case under certain circumstances.

Assuming that this is definitely correct, how much space do you actually have? Can you widen the opening at all? Something like this is fire rated: www.directdoors.com/collections/glazed-fire-door-pairs/products/shaker-4-light-white-primed-fire-door-pair-clear-g

However, anything like this is going to come in standard door widths, and if you need to get something custom made for a small gap it will be £££.

FWIW, in the end we gave up on fire rated glazing and went for solid pocket sliding doors instead.

Muststopeating · 12/05/2021 17:18

Glazed fire doors absolutely do exist but they get infinitely more expensive the more glass you put in (presumably because it is specialist glass).

Look at Howdens and Direct Doors or just google glazed internal fire doors.

Janek · 12/05/2021 17:28

They only need to be fire doors if they protect the room from the rest of the house. We have a garden room/kitchen extension beyond our (internal) French doors. But they don't need to be fire doors because the living room door and the kitchen door both are (both lead off the hall). I guess it's the same as if the whole area were open plan (through living room, garden room, kitchen).

MyAnacondaMight · 12/05/2021 17:31

www.madetomeasuredoorsuk.com/made-to-measure-fire-rated-doors/category/47/fd30-fire-resistant-internal-double-glass-doors This might be what you’re looking for. What size is the opening for the doors?

I thought about doing this, to bring more light into a dark dining room, but got put off by the cost.

guinnessandblackcurrant · 12/05/2021 17:33

Glazed Fire doors are available but as others have said very expensive and pretty limited on style and size.

Could you not just fit a pair of doors off heavy duty roller catches in the head of the door, fit handles in the normal way? (although they wouldn't have to operate anything) and run intumescent strip between them or do you specifically need a pair maker? Also worth checking that whether you could use two single fire doors or they would have had to have been fire rated as a pair?

Whats the overall opening size you have?

Wildwood6 · 12/05/2021 20:28

Thank you so much for all your responses, I'm glad it's not just me struggling! @QuantumWeatherButterfly yes, I'm pretty sure we need fire doors (although I'm happy to be corrected!) as it's a door onto an escape route and we have a loft conversion. Yes, I'm happy to widen, although the logistics of the room mean I can't widen as far as the doors you suggested, only roughly about 100cm or so, give or take. And yes, I feel your pain, I was wondering about giving up as well and just going for a single, partially glazed fire door, which seem easier to come by. But I just thought I'd try the wise people of MN as a pair of glazed doors would work so well in the space.
That's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for @MyAnacondaMight. Funnily enough, I found this company during my online searches and was also put off by the price! I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium as it seems to be a bit of a niche product, but I was a bit floored by the £1K plus price tag!

@guinnessandblackcurrant, you're definitely right there, they're pretty spendy with limited options. I don't think I'd have enough space to fit a regular pair of doors, the space is only about a metre or so, which doesn't seem to be a problem for regular internal French doors, but when you need them to be fire rated it seems much trickier!

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