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Seller demanding £33k extra on exchange day

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Firecat84 · 21/04/2021 05:01

After weeks of harassment from our sellers about the process going too slowly (it's been about 5/6 months due to us losing one set of buyers halfway through - we've been chasing solicitors like crazy trying to speed everything up) we were due to exchange yesterday. On the day however, we received a message via the vendors' solicitor saying that house prices had gone up so much in the time it had taken the deal to go through that they wanted an extra £33k (they gave a whole bunch of other vague reasons too, which I think boil down to they've had to pay for an extra term's private school fees?!!) Obviously we don't have this money and even if we did we don't want to give in to such horrible tactics. The vendors aren't in a chain going up - I don't know where they're moving after this.

The house had been on the market for a while when we made our offer and had been reduced twice. I believe we were the only offer (it has potential but needs quite a lot of work). We offered £8k under the lowest asking price. At the time there was plenty on the market in the area and now there is nothing we could afford. All the houses available are bigger and nicely finished, which does give the impression prices have gone up, but I think it's a bit misleading.

We are financially stretched to our limit as it is but are in a flat with a baby and desperately need more space. We've spent so much time and energy (and money) on this move and we're just exhausted and depressed by it all. My family want us to walk away and not give any money to such horrible sellers. What would you do?

OP posts:
fromdownwest · 21/04/2021 10:23

@Isabella70

Offer them £33k less.
Love this passive agressive move! Grin
lolacola77 · 21/04/2021 10:26

Walk away! Horrible greedy twats!

Firecat84 · 21/04/2021 10:27

@Hexinthecity

I’m confused by the time line here, are you due to exchange today?
Well we handed in our forms and deposit to the solicitor on Monday (after weeks of the seller pushing for immediate exchange or they were pulling out). At 6pm he told us he'd had a message saying they wouldn't exchange at the agreed price. The next day the estate agent told us how much more they wanted for the house (it's an odd number but basically takes it up to a round number that they think the house is now worth). So we left it hanging overnight and will get back to the EA today with our response.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement and advice, it's made me feel so much better! (Apart from the person who said we were evil for offering under the asking price haha! I assume that's the vendor! We had to accept £20k below asking price for our flat, which we haven't made a fuss about!)

OP posts:
ClingFilmAndGafferTape · 21/04/2021 10:29

Good luck Firecat. I am sure they will proceed at the original price. Some people are just massive CFs.

JudgeJ · 21/04/2021 10:30

@BlueTiles

Walk away, I think. What horrible people to do that on exchange day.
It's more common than people think! We've experienced it twice, the first time we walked away and got a load of abuse, threats to sue, idiots. Sold it a month later for more and to much nicer people.
Sitthisoneout · 21/04/2021 10:31

Call their bluff, exchange at the original price or they pull out. I'm an ex mortgage advisor and used to work in an Estate Agent too. Don't pull out yourself, there will be a clause in their Estate Agent's contract that means they will be liable for their fees provided they have introduced a buyer in a position to proceed. If they pull out, they will still be liable for the Estate Agent's fees

Awful. I often wonder what ppl who do this are like IRL when they’re not caught up in the selling precious house drama.

Crossing everything they see sense OP.

gorillasinthemist · 21/04/2021 10:33

Appalling, greedy behaviour.

Tell them no firmly but you are still willing to exchange at the price agreed.

FreyaFolkvangr · 21/04/2021 10:35

They are such CF's! I've never heard of quite this big a jump. You stick to your guns and don't be bullied. I hope you can still get things through - I had a sale drag on recently and it was so stressful. The whole system is awful in this country.

And my they get crotch rot and have their genitals drop off Wink

BuggerBognor · 21/04/2021 10:36

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Whythesadface · 21/04/2021 10:37

Hope all goes ok

Igloo71 · 21/04/2021 10:40

I really feel for you.

We had a similar situation when we were nearly at exchange and our seller suddenly declared that another agent had knocked on his door with a buyer ready to offer £50k more for his house. Their EA was fuming and together we wished them all bad karma and I think the agent went after their fees, like someone mentioned up thread. And what happened? A week later, he came crawling back with his tail between his legs, saying that the other buyer hadn't even sold their house!

We proceeded and love our house, but it's such a dampner on the whole process when people behave like this.

Best advice we had from our estate agent was don't think it's over yet - they may well come back to you. Good luck!!

MaMaD1990 · 21/04/2021 10:40

Let us know how it goes OP! I really hope it goes your way!

everydayiwritethebook · 21/04/2021 10:41

Walk away.

We had something similar happen about 25 years ago, and we walked. I was devastated at the time, but it was the right thing to do.

The seller had several properties that he let out. Unfortunately for him, I worked in council tax recovery at the time, and I went through all of his property accounts with a fine tooth comb (it's common for landlords to mess around with dates of when properties are empty in order not to pay council tax.) By the time I'd finished with him, I'd discovered nearly £5k of unpaid tax. When these were fast tracked through summons etc, it came to over £6k, (more than he was trying to screw us over with) and as he was also an employee I hit him with five attachment of earnings orders, with notes on every account that under no circumstances should these be stopped, because of fraud. But then I'm a vengeful bitch when crossed!

CleverCatty · 21/04/2021 10:42

You've done the right thing!

I'm laughing a bit here (and can't be bothered) to reply to those who were slating my old boss (yes, he's old school etc) and saying he's a crap solicitor. very amusing.

He's been a solicitor since his mid 20s and is now in his late 50's, in conveyancing with lots of repeat work - he just doesn't recommend to his clients bartering over the price or if he does he doesn't like to string it out - that meant lots of renewed mortgage offers etc, more work for him and he would generally suggest to a buyer to walk away or should I say to 'threaten' to walk away, only because this usually had the effect of making the seller (vendor) pull up sharp and review their offer.

our solicitors rarely dealt with mortgage advisors, only mortgagors (e.g. banks), estate agents etc and the owner of the firm was quite black and white in his dealings, very 'old school'.

hope this all gets sorted out for you OP.

chipsarnie · 21/04/2021 10:42

The vendor of our house demanded an extra 10k just before completion. We had no choice but to pay it, because we had so much invested in the process by then.

I got my revenge, because we'd verbally agreed that he could leave some of his tat in the front yard for a skip we'd got on order to remove his revolting, grease-encrusted kitchen. I got our solicitor to tell him to clear it at the last minute, which I know caused him a massive amount of inconvenience.

CleverCatty · 21/04/2021 10:46

@Igloo71

I really feel for you.

We had a similar situation when we were nearly at exchange and our seller suddenly declared that another agent had knocked on his door with a buyer ready to offer £50k more for his house. Their EA was fuming and together we wished them all bad karma and I think the agent went after their fees, like someone mentioned up thread. And what happened? A week later, he came crawling back with his tail between his legs, saying that the other buyer hadn't even sold their house!

We proceeded and love our house, but it's such a dampner on the whole process when people behave like this.

Best advice we had from our estate agent was don't think it's over yet - they may well come back to you. Good luck!!

Estate agents always chase their commission Wink.

staggered me how they could be nice on the one hand to you and then off with you next time. they got us repeat work as a firm as they knew we did a good job (and were in the same busy SW London street as lots of their firms were!).

what was funnier is that the All Bar One in our high street had a couple of revamps and all the local firms (including the estate agents) got free drinks/food and drank the bar dry on the revamp freebies! Grin

Mumdiva99 · 21/04/2021 10:50

Good luck to you. It's such a stressful time already. I hope they reconsider on your behalf.

KihoBebiluPute · 21/04/2021 10:53

Excellent point made by PP that it is important that you don't pull out, but are ready willing and able to proceed at the agreed price and if they don't want to then they need to be the ones to pull out. It will be entirely appropriate karma that they will then be liable for thousands of pounds of estate agents commission fees, which they should certainly be liable for having wasted everyone's time.

MWMWMW · 21/04/2021 10:54

@everydayiwritethebook

Walk away.

We had something similar happen about 25 years ago, and we walked. I was devastated at the time, but it was the right thing to do.

The seller had several properties that he let out. Unfortunately for him, I worked in council tax recovery at the time, and I went through all of his property accounts with a fine tooth comb (it's common for landlords to mess around with dates of when properties are empty in order not to pay council tax.) By the time I'd finished with him, I'd discovered nearly £5k of unpaid tax. When these were fast tracked through summons etc, it came to over £6k, (more than he was trying to screw us over with) and as he was also an employee I hit him with five attachment of earnings orders, with notes on every account that under no circumstances should these be stopped, because of fraud. But then I'm a vengeful bitch when crossed!

Not excusing the vendor, but thankfully, GDPR would have something to say about someone taking that course of action today,
FlyingBurrito · 21/04/2021 10:56

@ClingFilmAndGafferTape

Good luck Firecat. I am sure they will proceed at the original price. Some people are just massive CFs.
They are but £33k is a lot of money, if they genuinely think they can get that much more and aren't in an upward chain I can't see how you can be sure about their actions at all.
24GinDrinkingOnceTheKidsInBed · 21/04/2021 10:57

Let them put the house back on the market for an extra 33k, they’re shooting themselves in the foot.

whatcangowrong · 21/04/2021 10:58

Call their bluff. Don't walk away but say it's the agreed price or nothing, and it's today or no day. They don't have anyone else lined up, they are trying it on.

everydayiwritethebook · 21/04/2021 10:59

@MWMWMW possibly, but I don't think that pursuing fraudulent evasion of taxes would be seen as a breach.

Bigsighall · 21/04/2021 11:00

The same happened to me a few years ago. A sudden increase of nearly 10% 24 hours before exchanging. I was devastated but walked away. It worked out well in the end but it really caused a massive amount of upset for a long time.

Posyc · 21/04/2021 11:01

Walk. Just awful.

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