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parietal · 15/04/2021 14:57

I don't think anyone wants to sit on stools and stare at the washing up.

post a floorplan and we will all deconstruct it for you. make sure you show which rooms the kitchen connects to and how.

HasaDigaEebowai · 15/04/2021 15:25

Yep we need a floor plan. Internal window sounds like a massive design no no.

I agree with the oven comments but I am going against the flow. Sink in island is fine and very common as long as your island is big enough that there won't be splashing onto people sitting the other side, you're reasonably tidy (we are having two dishwashers and an 800mm single bowl belfast sink with a prep chopping board over it so pans etc will be hidden in the sink.)

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MaryIsA · 15/04/2021 16:27

)Oh I like the idea we might be making a massive design no no. That sounds about right.

I'm posting the plan with some trepidation but given the design of current house/budget and planning - this is what is being built.

The area highlighted yellow is where the kitchen is going to be - extending right down to the family room wall.

The top end - will have 2 sets of sliding doors leading on to garden. There will be a table for eating at and a couple of chairs for looking at the garden.

Back of house very light (south facing) and the front of house is light in morning - dark the rest of the time.

The idea of the internal window is to bring some of the morning light in and some of the southern light into the front of the house.

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MaryIsA · 15/04/2021 16:27

Having trouble posting a pic

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MaryIsA · 15/04/2021 16:29

Internal window and door sort of idea

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Africa2go · 15/04/2021 16:38

Personally I would swap the utility and the toilet from where its marked on the plan to the bottom of the long room where you have the kitchen now, and then incorporate the space earmarked for the utility / loo into the kitchen diner to make it less narrow.

tryingtocatchthewind · 15/04/2021 16:39

Yeah I can see why they’ve all gone with that design. Hopefully the masters of mumsnet can help! I’m plucking up the courage to post my floorplan

RuggeryBuggery · 15/04/2021 16:40

The people I know who have a sink on their island, similarly to a pp, have a utility room with a ss sink and that’s where dishwasher is and where they like dirty dishes and stuff. They also have kettle and toaster in there 🤷‍♀️

I’m no expert but my initial thought was also that I would rather have units on both walls and the shape/space doesn’t lend itself to an island but now I see the floor plan I can see with the doors why you have done it. Still not sure though

HasaDigaEebowai · 15/04/2021 16:42

I think the overall room layout works but I'd put glazed internal french doors in rather than an internal window.

Its tricky to say without measurements but I'd make your island longer. What space do you have between the wall units and the island?

AllWashedOut · 15/04/2021 16:42

For me, having seating near the sink is a big con. I've seen other units with the cooker. Who wants to sit in spitting range of a frying pan? Not me.

HasaDigaEebowai · 15/04/2021 16:44

Definitely keep the island though

HTPri · 15/04/2021 16:45

Id be careful of those type of ovens. I’ve always struggled with those since we had one. Find you can hardly fit anything in.

HasaDigaEebowai · 15/04/2021 16:59

Move your ovens one space to the right.

If your island is then double the length shown on the pictures then you'll have space next to the ovens and more space for seating away from the sink.

Harrykanesrightsock · 15/04/2021 17:06

@LizziesTwin

We have a prep sink on the Island & then the main sink & dishwasher out of the way.

We have this. The prep sink on the island has a boiling water tap which is fab.

jb23newmum · 15/04/2021 17:14

@Alfxn

We decided against it for our upcoming renovations, because although we have a dishwasher, there still ends up being various pots/chopping boards/clutter left by the sink drying etc and I feel having that kind of mess on your island looks worse than having it by the wall/window to the side.

We felt exactly the same so decided on the hob on the island with built in extractor fan - that way when I am cooking I can still speak to people

SageRosemary · 15/04/2021 17:33

Light is important and the idea of allowing natural light to flow from the kitchen into the study is a good one. We installed some glazed doors in our home for similar reasons.

If you are having a study (rather than a family room) you could consider having a run of windows and no doors at that end of the kitchen, this would allow you to put some base units and work tops all against that end and even around to where the kitchen door to the hall is.

If you must have a door from the kitchen into that room, I would suggest that the doors open into the study allowing you more useable space in your kitchen. You don't want doors busting open on top of you when cooking.

The poster who made the suggestion about the utility and WC probably doesn't understand the structural load-bearing wall.

My kitchen is quite compact so looking at your wall units I think that you have loads of storage space there without the island.

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MaryIsA · 15/04/2021 17:36

The utility has to say where it is. We can't afford the work necessary to open that up. It would be a massive structural job.

Its 3m 30 cm wide. Which im not sure is quite wide enough for an island.
The oven is moving.

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yessun · 15/04/2021 17:47

We were advised that a minimum of 1m around the island was best.

alittleconfusedinScotland · 15/04/2021 18:11

We have a sink in our Island it is rectangular and it’s on the short side of the rectangle we have groves cut into the stone as a draining board and there is plenty of room for preparing food etc.. We've recently purchased the house and it was there when we bought it. I’d been ambivalent about island and no experience of sinks in turn before but I’m now a convert

Africa2go · 15/04/2021 19:24

If its 3m 30cm internal width, I don't think you have enough room for an island.

Working from left to right, you'd have 60cm cupboards, then 1m gap, then the island which would have to be at least 90cm (60cm cupboards with a 30cm overhang) then you've only got 80cm the other side of the island. Thats a really narrow walkway, even without stools.

pringlesandchocolate · 15/04/2021 19:27

we're going totally free island as we'll be dining at it as well 1.2 x 2.5m we have the sink and induction hob on a run of units

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MaryIsA · 15/04/2021 20:51

Hmm a lot of food for thought.

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QuitMoaning · 15/04/2021 20:57

I have my hob with a pop up extractor on my island. I often cook and my partner or guests sit and talk with me whilst I am cooking so I feel sociable. No one wants to watch you wash up pots and pans.

This was two years ago and I wouldn’t change it, very happy with my decision.

HasaDigaEebowai · 16/04/2021 06:59

Whilst you’re thinking you might also want to consider:

Sink in island is very good for parties (wine bucket)
Sink in island is more expensive due to plumbing and drains.

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MaryIsA · 16/04/2021 07:05

@Africa2go

If its 3m 30cm internal width, I don't think you have enough room for an island.

Working from left to right, you'd have 60cm cupboards, then 1m gap, then the island which would have to be at least 90cm (60cm cupboards with a 30cm overhang) then you've only got 80cm the other side of the island. Thats a really narrow walkway, even without stools.

Yep, that’s my worry. I think it might have to be peninsular....which would break the room up more which would be a good thing.

Just need to get my head round it....

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